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Old 11-30-2018, 05:33 AM
 
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What isn't? Do you mean negotiating 50 Million dollar payoffs to the leaders of Foreign Countries that we have sanctions against while one is running for President?


LOL....when did these negotiations start and when did they end?


So, here lets make it simple, if it started before trump even thought about running, is it still bad or are you just searching for "something"?
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:36 AM
 
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Trump was associating with the Russians on the Hillary emails and business dealing. Now we know why Trump has been so soft with Putin. Why all these lies? It's not hard America. Trump is a corrupt mobster.

Trump say he had no business dealings with Russia
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...91326112112640

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...39505924628480


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...th-russia.html

Don Jr testify that his father didn't know about the Russian meeting that Jr set up.
Jr told the Senate he wasn't aware that Cohen reached out to the Kremlin.
The Kremlin Peskov denied ever responding to Cohen about the Tower project which was a lie.
The Trump Tower deal had to be approved by Putin.
Trump was planning to give Putin a $50 million penthouse.


Lie after lie, Why? Trump is corrupt, compromised and colluded with the Russians!


2013?????????????????????????????????????


Yea, trump knew that he was going to run for president...DAMN YOU have brought the "breaking news" they HAVE been conspiring since 2013.....
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:38 AM
 
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This was Felix Stater's idea to help the sell units in the building, not a sinister plot.


“My idea was to give a $50 million penthouse to Putin and charge $250 million more for the rest of the units. All the oligarchs would line up to live in the same building as Putin.” A second source confirmed the plan.
Sounds quite sinister to me!

Trump wants his name all over Russia. Contacts head communist/marxist foreign leader (adversary) and his crew and negotiates to give him something FREE for the rights.

Sater is/was Trumps and Cohens front man in the deal.

I can't imagine what you are getting at here.

Building is TRUMP.
50 Million FREE is to Putin.

Who makes the final deal is a ridiculous excuse. Drug lackies aren't the kingpins either.
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:42 AM
 
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LOL....when did these negotiations start and when did they end?

So, here lets make it simple, if it started before trump even thought about running, is it still bad or are you just searching for "something"?
Very simple....

1. If stuff that Trump did before he was running was/is legal, then he is in the clear. Let's see the tax returns and transactions and get testimony. But there are laws against certain types of trade involving bribes to foreign leaders....as well as money laundering of various types and tax avoidance and many other things.

We don't know until we investigate further.

2. The story here is mostly IF this went on, as stated by Cohen (who should know) well into the Election cycle. There is NO DOUBT that Russia and Putin favored Trump for POTUS and there is no doubt that Russian intelligence services and Kremlin operatives worked hard to make that happen. We have sanctions against Russia for various other things also.

Chances are good that IF this went on into the Election Cycle, crimes were committed.

But I'll play your game too. Let's project that Trump gets away with all these crime and misunderstandings.....does that mean they are moral and ethical things?
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Was there a deal? Then nothing happened...and there are no Russia ties, no matter how much of a wet dream you want it to be....
I can see wanting to keep the Russia ties on the quiet during the campaign. It looked bad, very bad and might have cost him the office. But why lie afterward? Why did Cohen commit a felony to deny any business dealing? My assessment is that there is much more to this than meets the eye so far.
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:47 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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1) Unsurprising
2) Not dissimilar to commercial centers that will give a discount rent to a grocery store, the post office and a bank. It makes the rest of the center more valuable. If you manage to get all 3 in the same center, the rest of the units are much more valuable.
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:47 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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According to some reporting, the deal that Trump was working on AFTER he was nominated for POTUS involved the tallest building in the world in Moscow with the TRUMP name on it. Part of the deal was that Putin was getting the top floors - a 50 Million dollar Penthouse.

Of course, this is only one of many "Russia ties" that may have made Trump and all of his circle so pro-Russia.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...imir-putin-the

"The revelation that representatives of the Trump Organization planned to forge direct financial links with the leader of a hostile nation at the height of the campaign raises fresh questions about President Trump's relationship with the Kremlin"

"Cohen said in court documents that he regularly briefed Trump and his family on the Moscow negotiations."

This is part of what Cohen now admits to lying about - the talks went on long after he claimed they stopped....well into the Election cycle.

“My idea was to give a $50 million penthouse to Putin and charge $250 million more for the rest of the units. All the oligarchs would line up to live in the same building as Putin.” A second source confirmed the plan





"was getting"
Why didn't this big secret deal go through?
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:51 AM
 
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I can see wanting to keep the Russia ties on the quiet during the campaign. It looked bad, very bad and might have cost him the office. But why lie afterward? Why did Cohen commit a felony to deny any business dealing? My assessment is that there is much more to this than meets the eye so far.



I agree, why, who knows, but this started long before trump started running for president.


But not remembering when something was shut down?


Just because he is the presidents lawyer does not mean he knows ever single thing that is going on. Just like the dems think trump knows every single thing that is going on with in his administration...not gonna happen.
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Wait? a guy indicted for lying?
Now confirmed by Trump:

“ We likely looked at Moscow Tower in 2016”.

If no big deal, why did he / Trump .Org not disclose it upfront?

People with nothing to hide, don’t hide.

Regardless of who could have been elected in 2016, he/she would enter office with unprecedented conflicts of interest.
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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According to some reporting, the deal that Trump was working on AFTER he was nominated for POTUS involved the tallest building in the world in Moscow with the TRUMP name on it. Part of the deal was that Putin was getting the top floors - a 50 Million dollar Penthouse.

Of course, this is only one of many "Russia ties" that may have made Trump and all of his circle so pro-Russia.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...imir-putin-the

"The revelation that representatives of the Trump Organization planned to forge direct financial links with the leader of a hostile nation at the height of the campaign raises fresh questions about President Trump's relationship with the Kremlin"

"Cohen said in court documents that he regularly briefed Trump and his family on the Moscow negotiations."

This is part of what Cohen now admits to lying about - the talks went on long after he claimed they stopped....well into the Election cycle.

“My idea was to give a $50 million penthouse to Putin and charge $250 million more for the rest of the units. All the oligarchs would line up to live in the same building as Putin.” A second source confirmed the plan
LOL, "Collusion, what Collusion???
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