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Old 12-08-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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What's surprising about this?

He thinks people should be able to graze livestock wherever they want and ignore borders, fees, and rules. And he apparently also thinks people should just be able to ignore national borders and live wherever they want and not follow the rules. Someone who never understood the idea of the tragedy of the commons.

The only people this is a surprise to are those on both the left and right who think everything is about race. In actuality, what he is is an extreme libertarian who rejects federal government authority across the board, which is really a form of anarchy.

Bundy is a lot closer to Anifa than to any so-called "militia group" - Antifa wears a mask, Bundy wears a cowboy hat. They both believe in a radical agenda and are firmly against Law & Order.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Sure, that may be closer to accurate but it still makes for the same argument.



LOL, despite my argument I do understand that. It can be argued that many Democrats support the Asylum seekers for the politics of that. My argument is less about the parties but rather the groups the parties use and exploit.
Well, the parties don't have principles. They only have power-seeking positions on issues.

I have no choice. 1. NAP. 2. Respect private property rights.

I must obey on every single issue that comes across my desk.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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Well, the parties don't have principles. They only have power-seeking positions on issues.
No disagreement there.

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I have no choice. 1. NAP. 2. Respect private property rights.

I must obey on every single issue that comes across my desk.
That's great, things would be far better if people were principled. I'll support someone with principles I disagree with before someone simply telling me what I want to hear.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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He thinks people should be able to graze livestock wherever they want and ignore borders, fees, and rules. And he apparently also thinks people should just be able to ignore national borders and live wherever they want and not follow the rules. Someone who never understood the idea of the tragedy of the commons.
The tragedy of the commons is a leftist invention--no such thing exists. The government has no right to own property.

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In actuality, what he is is an extreme libertarian who rejects federal government authority across the board, which is really a form of anarchy.
Which is the only correct viewpoint. States have no authority over individuals.

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Bundy is a lot closer to Anifa than to any so-called "militia group" - Antifa wears a mask, Bundy wears a cowboy hat. They both believe in a radical agenda and are firmly against Law & Order.
Complete BS.

Only a leftist would consider liberty a radical agenda. “Law and Order†is communism for so-called “conservatives.â€
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Well, that's an interesting development to say the least.

I wonder how his supporters on here will now feel.
Interesting indeed.

It actually seems a tad consistent with his beliefs all have the freedom to use as they please rationalized by " devine inspiration".
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Let me guess, he'll now become a darling of the left given that he's taken a position that runs counter to Trump
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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What are they seeking asylum from?
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Let me guess, he'll now become a darling of the left given that he's taken a position that runs counter to Trump
Leftists don't like principled libertarians.

It's why Trump supporters don't like us.
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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What are they seeking asylum from?

Good question. The only viable asylum claim is persecution in one's own country based on their religious and political beliefs or sexual orientation. Seeking economic opportunity or fleeing gangs and/or violence are not viable claims for asylum.
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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What are they seeking asylum from?
Many are fleeing countries we have undermined and destroyed. I'm willing to compromise. We build the wall and bring every one of our soldiers and spooks home, while not funding terrorists groups.
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