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One could argue that European science also gave us global warming, nuclear weapons and runaway population of humans.
Intelligence has many axes along which it can be measured. I tend to put more emphasis on the axis that is the ability to live more harmoniously with the rest of the life on earth. That is not an European trait.
Western science is fixing all of those things while most of the rest of world is just starting to figure out how to even contribute to said issues. Think about that for a second. It's not like war lords in Africa are some how above detonating nukes or using chlorofluorocarbons. They just don't have the ability to even create such problems. They're too busy cutting people's arms off and poaching elephants.
Anyways, you're only confirming what I already said in that intelligence takes many forms. You must of missed where I said that East Asians have higher IQs than Europeans on average, but Europeans are more creative IMO, which has led to their ability to basically run the world for most of the last couple thousand years.
Also, all major cultures have conquered other cultures. You ever heard of the mongols? It's not like the Europeans are the only ones guilty of this. What separated the Europeans from other people on this planet is the fact that they were advanced enough to do the things that they did. It's not like the Aztecs were these peaceful people that lived in harmony before the Spaniards conquered them. They did the same thing to the less advanced tribes that lived among them that the Europeans eventually did to them.
Basically, people hate on Europeans for the same reason people hate on Tom Brady. The hate us because they ain't us.
Bolivia is a nation where there are Indigenous peoples, Europeans (mainly of Spanish origin), Mestizo, people of African descent, Asians, etc. The environment can play a big factor. A large part of Bolivia's population is of indigenous background and living in the high elevation regions. Being short is an adaptation to the high altitude (10,000 ft and higher). Another factor is nutrition. Bolivia being a poor country. There are many who do not get the proper nutrition when young. Bolivia and Peru have the highest prevalence of stunted growth in South America. Bolivia has gotten better in recent years in terms of reducing stunted growth. Something else. Bolivians tend to be taller in the eastern lowland regions of the country as oppose to the Altiplano region.
In Bosnia, the diet is much more meat-based. Vegetables and potatoes are also a big part of the Bosnian diet. Compared to Bolivia, the average Bosnian has better access to nutrition. However, the average height for Bosnians varies by regions. The southern and western regions (Sarajevo, Mostar, and some mountainous areas, although Bosnia doesn't have regions nearly as high in elevation as Bolivia does) of Bosnia have taller people than the far north of the country.
Yes, much of the difference can be attributed to nutrition. I notice second generation Filipino adolescents tend to tower over their parents.
And you just mention cast iron, iron working itself predates China's casting by a couple thousand years originating in Mesopotamia and spreading from there into Europe. European and Chinese crossbows appeared at the same time, there is no evidence one originated from the other at this time, since they are pretty different in the way they function.
There is no evidence for a lot of things - until they dig up full armies of terra-cotta warriors and things like that. As I have maintained all along, the DNA "science" is just getting started.....and any way you look at, a person from Hong Kong or Japan is head and shoulders above a Russian (on average).....or even an American.
Most all accomplishments are made by standing on the shoulders of others...so timelines of this and that aren't as important. Point is, the Mexicans built some nice pyramids and people the world over figured out what most every plant, animal and insect did as well as many ways to make mechanical work more efficient, etc....
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I think there are were innovations happening all over the world but the West is largely the West and by the time we got our tech it was written into OUR history.
Anyway, this has little bearing on IQ - our "secret" in the west is that hated word (by many) "collectivism" and sharing of patents, inventions and research put science into overdrive. The subject of this thread - discovery of DNA and further research around it - was an international effort. The WWW that we all use - same thing, conceived in a physics lab in Switzerland.
I think it would be very tough for anyone here to say that 108 IQ's such as in China or Japan aren't "innovating" in most every way better than 90 or 92 IQ's in Russia. That is why one country is moving ahead at a rate many times what the other one is. There is nothing - except lack of intelligence - keeping Russia from being a world leader in many fields. But sometimes a little knowledge is worse than none at all - and Putin may be clever (10X as clever as Trump and others he plays against), but at the same time he is his own...and the Russian peoples worst enemy.
Yes, much of the difference can be attributed to nutrition. I notice second generation Filipino adolescents tend to tower over their parents.
Same goes for Japanese-Americans who came to this country. And people living in Japan. People in Japan have gotten taller over the years. Japanese-Americans born and raised in America were frequently taller than their parents. Diet can be a big factor.
Or how about this. The Netherlands is the tallest nation in the world. However, this wasn't always the case. Many reasons have been considered from natural selection to diet.
Same goes for Japanese-Americans who came to this country. And people living in Japan. People in Japan have gotten taller over the years. Japanese-Americans born and raised in America were frequently taller than their parents.
A rice diet not real good if you want to play then the NBA when you grow up.
Walter Williams wrote an excellent article on the IQ gap and pointed out that in almost all other demographic groups males are disproportionately represented in the highest and lowest iq scores but African Americans are an exception where females dominate in the higher iq scores. This cannot be explained by genetics. It points to environmental factors.
Of course we also need to consider the political implications either way. If Watson is right, does that mean that we should give upon equal treatment under the law? (Hint: Even if Watson is right
Why on earth should people not have political equality or inalienable rights based on IQ?
What is next, more rights if you are deemed physically attractive?
I think it is absurd to even pretend that this is a real possibility that most would argue for.
Fact is, some people are smarter, some are dumber...some of it is genetic, but not all of it. It doesn't make you any less than human. Does it make you less human if you are slow at track?
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