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I would like for everyone, to put their loathing aside for each party and president, and focus on being detached so we can look at this in a non biased clarity.
Lets for a moment, place parties aside...and focus on what is really going on here in our government, now for years....
Why is it you believe the Presidency had been stolen from Hillary by Trump and the Russians and how could it have been done? What makes you believe this is true?
The republicans were convinced the same thing happened with Obama's 2nd term? At that time, for 8 years, I had believed it was true...but now that the same claims are being made about Russia and Trump, for me, I gotta wonder what in the world is going on here?
Think about all the time and money that is being wasted.
This accusation has been made by the dems now for over two years and still no evidence...? Same as what happened with Bush and Obama....
If you don't believe this, then why, what do you know about the situation, that is convincing?
Why would they invent such ridiculous smoke screens?
To keep from addressing our Nations problems...its like a stale mate in hopes that when they gain the majority power again, they will turn it all around...again....and again, and it's been going on for years?
We don't seem to be making any progress...do we?
Here's an example....
Lets review the promises Trump made...what promises has he not accomplished....? I'll list a few, but I'm wondering if this all ties in together? If they are stalling to deliberately ignore our 1. economy, and getting us out of debt? 2. Fixing Health Care 3. Trump promised to fix immigration...well, lets review...the focus in now on the wall, which of course wouldn't be 100% full proof, but effective in reducing the amount of illegals coming into this country. But enforcing and controlling illegal immigration would require a whole lot more...so it all comes together and is 75% to 90% full proof.
1. You'd have to hire a lot of border police
2. You'd have to review all our laws already on the books about illegal immigration and revise as needed.
3. You would have to impose fines to everyone in the U.S. who would hire these illegals.
4. I believe they know where the illegals are working but allow it to continue? Why? Are there way too many illegals in this country in political positions?
5. you'd have to deport them, wouldn't you, but instead, they are holding them in our prisons.
and there is so much more that would have to be done...which they are not doing?
Now I just covered one issue, that both the dems and repubs, have both promised would be fixed at one time or another, I've seen Obama make statements on videos of the speeches he delivered...but they continue to invent these Election problems, and literally divide this country, by proposing that now, the Russians have had a hand in this election? Why? If that were true, Trump would by now be on trial, and the same went for Obama, and Bush? They wanted Obama impeached and kept screaming the same things they are now screaming about Trump, and did the same with Bush...??????? What the heck is going on here?
Then there is our Economy and getting us out of debt which they have all promised but so far it's not been accomplished?
There are the problems with healthcare for our ex-military men and women, who were wounded and need dire help? And yet, the President wanted to have a parade for them instead of giving them better health care and benefits. And these are just a few of the promises that were made, but haven't been addressed yet?
And lastly, how bout Term Limits?
Does anyone else wonder about these issues, and why this is constantly being done? All the candidates for President make these promises...and when they are elected into office, they throw us bones, by signing a lot of rules and undoing what the past President has done...but then it ends there? Doesn't it?
It seems to me, that they purposely continue to divide the country, to avoid addressing these problems we have...and act worse than 3rd graders...calling each other names....etc.
This all just doesn't make sense? If your leading the country you want to improve it...common sense would dictate that we as Americans should be much further along intellectually, much more advanced, and yes, we've made some sensational progress, but very very slowly and it seems to me, grown adults would realize, the significance, in just going forward and working together, understanding that you can't always win?
I believe this is all being done on purpose. You've got American's trying to raise money on a Go Fund Me Page but the Government says, we can't do that?
What in the world is going on here?
Can anyone explain this to me....it's just not common sense politics?
Do you understand where I'm going with this, and why I've pointed out these examples?
I seriously don't understand, what has been going on here for all these years?
Obama promised we'd be debt free, he had a plan, but he tripled our Debt?
Bush did the same and so did Trump? Do you see where I'm going with this?
Most do not believe the election was stolen from Hillary. And someone should tell that meathead Rush that this is not about trying to overturn the results, it was never about that.
We just believe the attempts of a hostile foreign government to influence the results of our election, with the possible knowledge of this by one of the campaigns, is pretty freaking serious and should be investigated completely. For as long as it takes. And it's kind of disgusting that every American does not feel this way.
Last edited by DaveinMtAiry; 01-09-2019 at 05:22 AM..
There is an ongoing investigation that is looking into whether or not the election was stolen. Even if there was no thievery involved does not mean there was no wrongdoing. It's a good idea if we all wait til the investigation(s) are over.
I would like for everyone, to put their loathing aside for each party and president, and focus on being detached so we can look at this in a non biased clarity.
Lets for a moment, place parties aside...and focus on what is really going on here in our government, now for years....
Why is it you believe the Presidency had been stolen from Hillary by Trump and the Russians and how could it have been done? What makes you believe this is true?
The republicans were convinced the same thing happened with Obama's 2nd term? At that time, for 8 years, I had believed it was true...but now that the same claims are being made about Russia and Trump, for me, I gotta wonder what in the world is going on here?
Think about all the time and money that is being wasted.
This accusation has been made by the dems now for over two years and still no evidence...? Same as what happened with Bush and Obama....
If you don't believe this, then why, what do you know about the situation, that is convincing?
Why would they invent such ridiculous smoke screens?
To keep from addressing our Nations problems...its like a stale mate in hopes that when they gain the majority power again, they will turn it all around...again....and again, and it's been going on for years?
We don't seem to be making any progress...do we?
Here's an example....
Lets review the promises Trump made...what promises has he not accomplished....? I'll list a few, but I'm wondering if this all ties in together? If they are stalling to deliberately ignore our 1. economy, and getting us out of debt? 2. Fixing Health Care 3. Trump promised to fix immigration...well, lets review...the focus in now on the wall, which of course wouldn't be 100% full proof, but effective in reducing the amount of illegals coming into this country. But enforcing and controlling illegal immigration would require a whole lot more...so it all comes together and is 75% to 90% full proof.
1. You'd have to hire a lot of border police
2. You'd have to review all our laws already on the books about illegal immigration and revise as needed.
3. You would have to impose fines to everyone in the U.S. who would hire these illegals.
4. I believe they know where the illegals are working but allow it to continue? Why? Are there way too many illegals in this country in political positions?
5. you'd have to deport them, wouldn't you, but instead, they are holding them in our prisons.
and there is so much more that would have to be done...which they are not doing?
Now I just covered one issue, that both the dems and repubs, have both promised would be fixed at one time or another, I've seen Obama make statements on videos of the speeches he delivered...but they continue to invent these Election problems, and literally divide this country, by proposing that now, the Russians have had a hand in this election? Why? If that were true, Trump would by now be on trial, and the same went for Obama, and Bush? They wanted Obama impeached and kept screaming the same things they are now screaming about Trump, and did the same with Bush...??????? What the heck is going on here?
Then there is our Economy and getting us out of debt which they have all promised but so far it's not been accomplished?
There are the problems with healthcare for our ex-military men and women, who were wounded and need dire help? And yet, the President wanted to have a parade for them instead of giving them better health care and benefits. And these are just a few of the promises that were made, but haven't been addressed yet?
And lastly, how bout Term Limits?
Does anyone else wonder about these issues, and why this is constantly being done? All the candidates for President make these promises...and when they are elected into office, they throw us bones, by signing a lot of rules and undoing what the past President has done...but then it ends there? Doesn't it?
It seems to me, that they purposely continue to divide the country, to avoid addressing these problems we have...and act worse than 3rd graders...calling each other names....etc.
This all just doesn't make sense? If your leading the country you want to improve it...common sense would dictate that we as Americans should be much further along intellectually, much more advanced, and yes, we've made some sensational progress, but very very slowly and it seems to me, grown adults would realize, the significance, in just going forward and working together, understanding that you can't always win?
I believe this is all being done on purpose. You've got American's trying to raise money on a Go Fund Me Page but the Government says, we can't do that?
What in the world is going on here?
Can anyone explain this to me....it's just not common sense politics?
Do you understand where I'm going with this, and why I've pointed out these examples?
I seriously don't understand, what has been going on here for all these years?
Obama promised we'd be debt free, he had a plan, but he tripled our Debt?
Bush did the same and so did Trump? Do you see where I'm going with this?
Why aren't we all asking these questions?
We won't know that until Mueller files his final report and unseals all the indictments that have been piling up fir the last year.
Most do not believe the election was stolen from Hillary. And someone should tell that meathed Rush that this is not about trying to overturn the results, it was never about that.
We just believe the attempts of a hostile foreign government to influence the results of our election, with the possible knowledge of one of the campaigns, is pretty freaking serious and investigated completely. For as long as it takes. And it's kind of disgusting that you do not.
And I add, some think then Hillary had stolen the Democrat nomination from Bernie Sanders from what I saw once in this meme.
And I add, some think then Hillary had stolen the Democrat nomination from Bernie Sanders from what I saw once in this meme.
Oh I think this is totally true and as a Bernie guy I'm still pissed. However a party fixing things to nominate their preferred candidate is not exactly the same thing as a hostile foreign government influencing our election.
Most do not believe the election was stolen from Hillary. And someone should tell that meathead Rush that this is not about trying to overturn the results, it was never about that.
We just believe the attempts of a hostile foreign government to influence the results of our election, with the possible knowledge of this by one of the campaigns, is pretty freaking serious and should be investigated completely. For as long as it takes. And it's kind of disgusting that everyone does not feel this way.
Other countries have always meddled in the affairs of others. I'm all for stopping that also BUT it has to stop with us first. The Russians had no more impact than in any other election which is, little if any to none.
We go as far as outright kill the leaders of other countries we do not like and then get in a tizzy because maybe someone posted meme's somewhere?
Oh I think this is totally true and as a Bernie guy I'm still pissed. However a party fixing things to nominate their preferred candidate is not exactly the same thing as a hostile foreign government influencing our election.
What's funny is the US has been influencing and over throwing Governments for 150 years, Russia has been doing it to us since WW2, China probably for the last 30 years. China will be our biggest threat for the near future.
Now we have "Discovered" someone might have interfered since someone was elected that many people don't like and they are trying to make his Presidency illegitimate. He beat the anointed one so it had to be due to "Outside influence". Couldn't be because she was such a witch.
Most do not believe the election was stolen from Hillary. And someone should tell that meathead Rush that this is not about trying to overturn the results, it was never about that.
We just believe the attempts of a hostile foreign government to influence the results of our election, with the possible knowledge of this by one of the campaigns, is pretty freaking serious and should be investigated completely. For as long as it takes. And it's kind of disgusting that everyone does not feel this way.
well sir, in all due respect, as I pointed out, it's been said of past administrations as well?
I would like for everyone, to put their loathing aside for each party and president, and focus on being detached so we can look at this in a non biased clarity.
Lets for a moment, place parties aside...and focus on what is really going on here in our government, now for years....
Why is it you believe the Presidency had been stolen from Hillary by Trump and the Russians and how could it have been done? What makes you believe this is true?
The republicans were convinced the same thing happened with Obama's 2nd term? At that time, for 8 years, I had believed it was true...but now that the same claims are being made about Russia and Trump, for me, I gotta wonder what in the world is going on here?
Think about all the time and money that is being wasted.
This accusation has been made by the dems now for over two years and still no evidence...? Same as what happened with Bush and Obama....
If you don't believe this, then why, what do you know about the situation, that is convincing?
Why would they invent such ridiculous smoke screens?
To keep from addressing our Nations problems...its like a stale mate in hopes that when they gain the majority power again, they will turn it all around...again....and again, and it's been going on for years?
We don't seem to be making any progress...do we?
Here's an example....
Lets review the promises Trump made...what promises has he not accomplished....? I'll list a few, but I'm wondering if this all ties in together? If they are stalling to deliberately ignore our 1. economy, and getting us out of debt? 2. Fixing Health Care 3. Trump promised to fix immigration...well, lets review...the focus in now on the wall, which of course wouldn't be 100% full proof, but effective in reducing the amount of illegals coming into this country. But enforcing and controlling illegal immigration would require a whole lot more...so it all comes together and is 75% to 90% full proof.
1. You'd have to hire a lot of border police
2. You'd have to review all our laws already on the books about illegal immigration and revise as needed.
3. You would have to impose fines to everyone in the U.S. who would hire these illegals.
4. I believe they know where the illegals are working but allow it to continue? Why? Are there way too many illegals in this country in political positions?
5. you'd have to deport them, wouldn't you, but instead, they are holding them in our prisons.
and there is so much more that would have to be done...which they are not doing?
Now I just covered one issue, that both the dems and repubs, have both promised would be fixed at one time or another, I've seen Obama make statements on videos of the speeches he delivered...but they continue to invent these Election problems, and literally divide this country, by proposing that now, the Russians have had a hand in this election? Why? If that were true, Trump would by now be on trial, and the same went for Obama, and Bush? They wanted Obama impeached and kept screaming the same things they are now screaming about Trump, and did the same with Bush...??????? What the heck is going on here?
Then there is our Economy and getting us out of debt which they have all promised but so far it's not been accomplished?
There are the problems with healthcare for our ex-military men and women, who were wounded and need dire help? And yet, the President wanted to have a parade for them instead of giving them better health care and benefits. And these are just a few of the promises that were made, but haven't been addressed yet?
And lastly, how bout Term Limits?
Does anyone else wonder about these issues, and why this is constantly being done? All the candidates for President make these promises...and when they are elected into office, they throw us bones, by signing a lot of rules and undoing what the past President has done...but then it ends there? Doesn't it?
It seems to me, that they purposely continue to divide the country, to avoid addressing these problems we have...and act worse than 3rd graders...calling each other names....etc.
This all just doesn't make sense? If your leading the country you want to improve it...common sense would dictate that we as Americans should be much further along intellectually, much more advanced, and yes, we've made some sensational progress, but very very slowly and it seems to me, grown adults would realize, the significance, in just going forward and working together, understanding that you can't always win?
I believe this is all being done on purpose. You've got American's trying to raise money on a Go Fund Me Page but the Government says, we can't do that?
What in the world is going on here?
Can anyone explain this to me....it's just not common sense politics?
Do you understand where I'm going with this, and why I've pointed out these examples?
I seriously don't understand, what has been going on here for all these years?
Obama promised we'd be debt free, he had a plan, but he tripled our Debt?
Bush did the same and so did Trump? Do you see where I'm going with this?
Why aren't we all asking these questions?
1. Your representatives, while idealistic at the outset, become overwhelmed with the "old boy network" and succumb to being in office to serve themselves, not you.
2. representatives, oddly enough, become wealthy while being "servants of the people"
3. they are spending someone else's money
4. outsiders, like Trump, are vilified, as they threaten the "gravy train" of politics
5. representatives, when they arrive in office, realize that we can never balance the budget, otherwise we would precipitate a depression. Since we have gone off the gold standard, we can never "balance the budget" or we would markedly contract the money supply, causing chaos.
6. to get re-elected, representatives have to give their constituents more "treats", even though we can't afford them
7. representatives come to realize we are on a train headed over a cliff, but just hope it does not occur on their watch.
8. if you want to "fix" things, we need a constitutional convention to return power to the voters and establish term limits and eliminate the federal reserve system.
You have been sold out. It started when Senators started to be elected, rather than appointed, then the deal was sealed with the Federal Reserve system. That system was created by bankers to have a permanent, massive return on investment at the expense of the tax payer.
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