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Old 02-04-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Don't Trump supporters want the liberals to eat crow? Why not make it public so CNN and MSNBC have to admit, via Mueller report, that they were totally wrong and Trump is totally innocent of any crimes???

Shouldn't Trump be campaigning for the Mueller report to go public so the fake news liberal media has to admit there was no collusion ?


https://twitter.com/euronews/status/1092184817939243009

 
Old 02-04-2019, 09:21 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Don't Trump supporters want the liberals to eat crow? Why not make it public so CNN and MSNBC have to admit, via Mueller report, that they were totally wrong and Trump is totally innocent of any crimes???

Shouldn't Trump be campaigning for the Mueller report to go public so the fake news liberal media has to admit there was no collusion ?


https://twitter.com/euronews/status/1092184817939243009
Trump is terrified of the Mueller report.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 10:02 AM
 
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EVERY SINGLE TRUMP SUPPORTER on city-data knows that the witch hunt Mueller report will completely exonerate Trump and prove his innocence.

So...why doesn't Trump want the report to be made public? Wouldnt' Trump WANT the American people to see that Mueller found absolutely nothing and that the entire thing actually WAS a witch hunt?! I don't get it.


https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1092120918032297985
As you know very well, the current DOJ procedures for Special Counsel investigations, which were written by President Clinton's AG Janet Reno, do not permit the reports of Special Counsel report to be directly released. But the new AG William Barr will release a report that discloses as much information contained in the report as can be released by law, which he has pledged to release to the public.

If you have a problem with these procedures, former Clinton AG Janet Reno is to blame, not Donald Trump or William Barr.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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Trump is terrified of the Mueller report.
Ain't that the truth.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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As you know very well, the current DOJ procedures for Special Counsel investigations, which were written by President Clinton's AG Janet Reno, do not permit the reports of Special Counsel report to be directly released. But the new AG William Barr will release a report that discloses as much information contained in the report as can be released by law, which he has pledged to release to the public.

If you have a problem with these procedures, former Clinton AG Janet Reno is to blame, not Donald Trump or William Barr.
Doesn't matter. It will all come out one way or the other: Leaks, congressional investigations, etc. And Trump will be exposed for what he is: A thoroughly corrupt liar, con man, and traitor.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 10:32 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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Mueller's in a tough spot. He, like everyone else by this point, knows there's no Russian collusion. He knows it was launched illegally. He knows he has an obvious conflict of interests in the case. He knows his investigators are compromised and have conflicts of interests. He knows everything he's doing is the fruit of the poisonous tree.

He also knows that Trump declassifying everything could literally end the FBI & DOJ. I don't mean to exaggerate when I say that. Public confidence in those institutions will be so shaken by the coup d'etat they staged against Trump and the lengths they've gone to in the cover up, that no one in their right mind would ever trust them again. It will also open up thousands of convictions not related to the Mueller investigation. If Peter Strzok, Andy McCabe, James Baker, James Comey and company were railroading the POTUS, imagine how many other people they railroaded in their careers?

The only way to keep those documents redacted is to keep the investigation going. If he ends it, they all become public. The congressional and senate testimonies. The FISA applications. The arrest warrants. The FBI texts. The FBI 302 notes. Who was illegally querying the FISA & FBI databases. The involvement of the UK intel agencies.

If Mueller charges Trump, Trump Jr or Kushner with some made up Russian nonsense, everything gets declassified too.

So Mueller has to keep this thing going, but how is he supposed to justify this investigation at this point? Easy. He works up indictments on process crimes against Trump associates or indictments against foreign actors that will never stand trial to defend themselves. He crafts these & puts them on a shelf. Every time things start getting hot for him, as Bruce Ohr, James Baker, Lisa Page, Joe Pientka, et al. cooperate and their testimony leaks out incriminating the FBI, he releases one of his process crime indictments and with the help of the complicit media, he shifts the focus off the FBI corruption. His only shot was to run out the clock. Drag his feet until 2020, while implying Trump is guilty of something, with the hopes that a Democrat will win and all the investigations into the FBI/DOJ corruption will be dropped.

Then Whitaker & Barr came in and spoiled the plan. Now, without a complicit former employee overseeing things, he's being held accountable & feeling pressured to show evidence or end the investigation. My instinct is Mueller will make a deal with Trump to save the FBI, himself & a couple of his pets. He'll end the investigation. His report will not incriminate Trump. In exchange, Trump keeps all those redacted documents under wraps & we move on. Trump/America win, the corrupt FBI/DOJ lose.

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Old 02-04-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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Doesn't matter. It will all come out one way or the other: Leaks, congressional investigations, etc. And Trump will be exposed for what he is: A thoroughly corrupt liar, con man, and traitor.
Let's hope so. We need to know why Peter Strzok's friend Judge Rudolph Contreras, who he was trying to set up a secret meting with to get a FISA warrant, was recused from the Michael Flynn case. Obviously if Contreras was rubber stamping FISA warrants against the POTUS, that can't just get swept under the rug.

We also need to see those original FBI 302 notes, from the Michael Flynn interview. Pientka & Strzok said they didn't think he lied. How could the FBI then charge him with lying? What's in the original 302 notes from that interview?

What else did Peter Strzok & Lisa Page text about? We need to see the unredacted texts. We were allowed to see the texts that talk about hating Trump, setting up under-the-table meetings with the FISA Judge to get a warrant against the Trump team, that talk about the FBI's insurance plan to stop Trump & vow to keep him from taking office. Now imagine how bad the redactions must be? Were they planning to assassinate Trump? Again, imagine how bad those texts must be, for them to be redacted, given how egregious the unredacted ones were.

We also need to see the edited directive from Rosenstein to Mueller explaining the scope of his investigation. Why is no one even allowed to know what Mueller's allowed to investige?

People who heard the Bruce Ohr congressional testimony said it brings down everyone. They say he implicated at least one FISA Judge in the plot to take down Trump. They say Ohr openly admitted he hated Trump, as did his coworkers, with their goal being a coup d'etat. We need to see that testimony.

Same with James Baker, who allegedly testified that he and most of the top brass at the FBI argued with James Comey that Hillary Clinton quite obviously broke the law by illegally setting up an unsecured server in her bathroom, processing classified emails on it & having it hacked by at least 5 foreign countries. Baker allegedly said that Comey overruled everyone else & cleared Hillary. Baker also allegedly testified that it was Comey, not Bill Priestap, that illegally kept the counter-intel investigation from Congress.

On and on and on the redacted and classified information goes. Time for everything to be made public, regardless of which side of the argument you're on.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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Doesn't matter. It will all come out one way or the other: Leaks, congressional investigations, etc. And Trump will be exposed for what he is: A thoroughly corrupt liar, con man, and traitor.
I agree that it will all come out and people who think like me want it to come out. I expect it will all come out in the AG's report. Also, Mueller will testify before Congress.

Nobody wants to hide anything here. Except for perhaps the Democrats, who will likely want to hide the exoneration of Donald Trump and their role in misusing the DOJ and FBI to try to improperly overthrow a duly elected President of the United States.

And that is turning out to be the real scandal here. Let's be clear about that.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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I agree that it will all come out and people who think like me want it to come out. I expect it will all come out in the AG's report. Also, Mueller will testify before Congress.

Nobody wants to hide anything here. Except for perhaps the Democrats, who will likely want to hide the exoneration of Donald Trump and their role in misusing the DOJ and FBI to try to improperly overthrow a duly elected President of the United States.

And that is turning out to be the real scandal here. Let's be clear about that.
Except Trump.
 
Old 02-04-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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Wow, lots of deluded individuals on here!

Can’t wait to see all of you focus on reality when Mueller issues his findings.
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