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Old 01-20-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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Oh Geez, if these doctors cannot be trusted to write prescriptions responsibly, why in the world are we trusting them to make other, more important decisions on our health and treatment? Maybe we need a law enforcement agent in every exam room from now on!


Its sad and pathetic that the public has been duped into believing law enforcement knows better than doctors!
Have you ever seen rogue doctors protesting anything in the streets? No, you haven't because even though there are "bad doctors" - some who run pill mill "pain clinics," some who prescribe HUNDREDS of addictive drugs to people - and there is a KNOWN opioid epidemic in the US - but YOU SEE NO "GOOD DOCTORS" standing up to speak about this issue . . . It's a big "boys club" mentality - "protect your own at all costs."

When the insurance industry took over medicine, not a word of protest from doctors (other than complaints that their malpractice insurance was expensive) - no protest on behalf of patients when Medicare implemented 10 minute (TEN MINUTE) appointments . . . These are supposedly exceptionally *smart* people, yet they cannot speak up about important matters because there is such peer pressure to not "break rank."

When the idiotic pain edicts came out, they just blindly hopped on the latest bandwagon - who knows how they rationalized it to themselves - when they saw that people were becoming addicted, did they THINK anything? Did they say anything?

Crickets.

Doctors, en masse, are colluding cowards who profit from outside influences on their practices.

The patients is NOT the most important.

"DO NO HARM" has been forgotten.

I don't even know why they take the Hippocratic Oath anymore (if they do). It's a joke.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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Have you ever seen rogue doctors protesting anything in the streets? No, you haven't because even though there are "bad doctors" - some who run pill mill "pain clinics," some who prescribe HUNDREDS of addictive drugs to people - and there is a KNOWN opioid epidemic in the US - but YOU SEE NO "GOOD DOCTORS" standing up to speak about this issue . . . It's a big "boys club" mentality - "protect your own at all costs."

When the insurance industry took over medicine, not a word of protest from doctors (other than complaints that their malpractice insurance was expensive) - no protest on behalf of patients when Medicare implemented 10 minute (TEN MINUTE) appointments . . . These are supposedly exceptionally *smart* people, yet they cannot speak up about important matters because there is such peer pressure to not "break rank."

When the idiotic pain edicts came out, they just blindly hopped on the latest bandwagon - who knows how they rationalized it to themselves - when they saw that people were becoming addicted, did they THINK anything? Did they say anything?

Crickets.

Doctors, en masse, are colluding cowards who profit from outside influences on their practices.

The patients is NOT the most important.

"DO NO HARM" has been forgotten.

I don't even know why they take the Hippocratic Oath anymore (if they do). It's a joke.
Well, I agree that doctors will protect their own at all costs, and Im not surprised doctors are not out in the streets about the opioid problem, the DEA and other LE has done a great job of 'demonizing' opioid medicine.


Honestly though, whats safer... for someone to use/abuse medicine given by a doctor, from a legitimate company, or heroin from the street (that comes from Mexico or Afghanistan)?


'demonizing' opioids is not being done because of public health and safety though, its about shutting down the competition, addicts buying pills obtained from doctors is a bad thing for the drug cartels.
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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Have you ever seen rogue doctors protesting anything in the streets? No, you haven't because even though there are "bad doctors" - some who run pill mill "pain clinics," some who prescribe HUNDREDS of addictive drugs to people - and there is a KNOWN opioid epidemic in the US - but YOU SEE NO "GOOD DOCTORS" standing up to speak about this issue . . . It's a big "boys club" mentality - "protect your own at all costs."

When the insurance industry took over medicine, not a word of protest from doctors (other than complaints that their malpractice insurance was expensive) - no protest on behalf of patients when Medicare implemented 10 minute (TEN MINUTE) appointments . . . These are supposedly exceptionally *smart* people, yet they cannot speak up about important matters because there is such peer pressure to not "break rank."

When the idiotic pain edicts came out, they just blindly hopped on the latest bandwagon - who knows how they rationalized it to themselves - when they saw that people were becoming addicted, did they THINK anything? Did they say anything?

Crickets.

Doctors, en masse, are colluding cowards who profit from outside influences on their practices.

The patients is NOT the most important.

"DO NO HARM" has been forgotten.

I don't even know why they take the Hippocratic Oath anymore (if they do). It's a joke.
Doctors are absolutely speaking out. Here is just one.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-p...c/mqc-20438006

Can you give an example of any case where community doctors are supporting "pill mills"?

"Doctors, en masse, are colluding cowards"? Do you not realize that the majority of physicians never treated chronic pain?
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:15 PM
 
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Doctors are absolutely speaking out. Here is just one.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-p...c/mqc-20438006

Can you give an example of any case where community doctors are supporting "pill mills"?

"Doctors, en masse, are colluding cowards"? Do you not realize that the majority of physicians never treated chronic pain?
The article you quoted is a big joke.

Nowhere is the issue of doctors prescribing HUNDREDS of "pain pills" for an issue that SHOULD be addressed with a few days worth . . . That's a scenario that has been common - not rare, but common. There is no excuse for prescribing dangerous meds like candy.

Acute pain (when you are in a serious enough condition to be hospitalized) is a completely different issue.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:19 PM
 
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Pain med doctors are the worst. They tell you that you need to see them every 2 months and insurance companies and Medicare and Medicaid end up paying for the doctors to fatten their pockets and threaten people with the DEA coming after them if they don't go to their office every 2 months.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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Please read up on the "American Pain Society" - The body that promoted the "Fifth Vital Sign," responsible for getting doctors to conform to overmedicate America.

Note that the "American Pain Society," is "partially funded by pharmaceutical companies." Another big surprise.

And doctors had no choice but to hop on the bandwagon, en masse!

https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...pioid-epidemic
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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NINE MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET JUST FOR MEALS FOR PHYSICIANS WHO PRESCRIBE THEIR DRUG:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/be...fbFoggwXNSlgyw
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