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Old 01-21-2019, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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You would light a fire under Trump by the business class that travel everywhere if you shut the airports down.
Trump is aligned with Putin. It doesn't matter.

 
Old 01-21-2019, 06:48 AM
 
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the shutdown is hurting these workers and I sympathize with their situation. they have nothing to do with the political football being tossed around in Washington. but, they aren't required to stay employed by the government. they are free to quit and find new jobs.
I can't wait until that starts happening. Your really going to be up a creek when that starts happening. HR will be furloughed and no one else can be hired.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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the shutdown is hurting these workers and I sympathize with their situation. they have nothing to do with the political football being tossed around in Washington. but, they aren't required to stay employed by the government. they are free to quit and find new jobs.

An air traffic controller has already resigned from her job in Albany NY. One of the reasons why people work for the government is job security. Now that's gone.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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This is starting to get absurd. Eight hundred thousand employees are either furloughed or working without pay. Working without pay is worse than being fired.

We are looking for the politicians to solve this when we have a President who acts like a callous child. TSA and the air traffic controllers are in unions. It's time for the unions to organize one day sick outs which would close down airports and force passengers to alternate destinations.

Europeans are willing to close down their entire country in one day national strikes. It's time for the unions to grow a pair. Close down individual airports one day at a time.
I say shut down all ports of entry. Guarantee that will end the shutdown in 24 hours.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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Wrong. I have stellar pay, bonuses, benefits, but am explaining to the OP why govt employees are staying at their jobs.

Walking off any job is idiotic.
Said the guy with the benefits, bonuses, and stellar pay, all probably precepted upon some union activity decades ago......you know....those guys who were prepared to walk off the jobs and risk it all to get those things you're now taking for granted in your smack talking.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 06:56 AM
 
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An air traffic controller has already resigned from her job in Albany NY. One of the reasons why people work for the government is job security. Now that's gone.
24,900 of them in 2016

1 per mth/24,900 = .0482% voluntary attrition annualized
 
Old 01-21-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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Said the guy with the benefits, bonuses, and stellar pay, all probably precepted upon some union activity decades ago......you know....those guys who were prepared to walk off the jobs and risk it all to get those things you're now taking for granted in your smack talking.
Nope. I am in management. Its simply supply-demand compensation.

Welcome to the 21st century.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 06:58 AM
 
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These Sick-Outs are the same as a Strike and should be treated that way.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Wrong. I have stellar pay, bonuses, benefits, but am explaining to the OP why govt employees are staying at their jobs.

Walking off any job is idiotic.

Seventeen thousand three hundred posts in four years. What job permits that? Do you work for the Koch brothers in some capacity? That would explain the absurdity of your positions.
 
Old 01-21-2019, 07:00 AM
 
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Nope. I am in management. Its simply supply-demand compensation.

Welcome to the 21st century.
And so was I with the knowledge that every compensation package the unions negotiated that brought the top tier skilled workers within spitt'n distance of management......got us all a raise. We thanked them later.
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