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Old 01-26-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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I don't even like Chris Cillizza but he's right on this one



https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/polit...iew/index.html

Nancy Pelosi, or as Trump likes to call her, "Nancy", has him thoroughly cowed. She bested him about the SOTU, and now she's bested him about the Shutdown. And it took 3 weeks. That's it.

Yes, yes, he's threatening to shutdown the government again, but he's seen the poll numbers on that. And he will bear sole responsibility AGAIN if he does it again. And he's threatening to declare an emergency. But even if that was legally tenable (and most likely isn't and will end up in court for an extended period of time to figure it out), it's definitely not politically tenable. Congressional GOPers don't really want to cede that much power to a GOP president and they sure as hell don't want a Democratic president to be able to rely on this precedent to push through Democratic pet projects.

So politically, he's pretty much dead in the water. They will negotiate something that doesn't include a wall the way that normal people define it, but Trump will call it a wall and declare a victory and his sycophants will swallow it no matter how much it smells.

And Nancy Pelosi will continue to rule Washington DC.
Cartel money well spent.
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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Pelosi and the Democrats are the real deal. They demonstrated that real power comes from standing together to oppose bullies.
If by "real deal" you mean supporting de facto open borders so her party can get more votes, then yeah.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I question the sanity of people who put a woman with obvious senior dementia in charge of the house.
Obviously she's smarter than the doddering reality show star that's currently POTUS.

That said, credit for ending the shutdown can't be given strictly to Nancy.

Credit should be given to those federal employees who were calling in sick and causing flight delays and cancellations on Friday. It was they that really got the government reopened.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Yet there were those democrats who broke ranks with Pelosi.
Realizing they really weren't elected just to obstruct Trump but produce results too. They promise to work for a solution and that is a compromise that can satisfy legislation signed into to law. Something some democrats say they are willing to do. All they need was 3 weeks they said. Some are mistaken and some are lying as always but the question remains. Can they do in 3 weeks what they couldn't do in 3 decades ? What are the odds on that ?
Democrats who voted for GOP proposal
West Virginia Joe Manchin


Republicans who voted for Democratic proposal
Tennessee Lamar Alexander
Maine Susan Collins
Colorado Cory Gardner
Georgia Johnny Isakson
Alaska Lisa Murkowski
Utah. Mitt Romney


Republicans who voted against GOP proposal
Arkansas Tom Cotton
Utah Mike Lee


Pelosy + 8

Trump + 1


I'm not sure what you're talking about in 3 decades? Are you talking about stopping illegal immigration? If you are then ask yourself this. Why hasn't it been stopped in decades by the politicians? Follow the money.
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I can see you through the screen rubbing your hands hoping he will vote Democrat.
Of course, I’d be pleased if he did.

But I’d settle for him voting for a non-sleazy R.
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Nancy doesn't know what decade she's in
Yet even conservative pundits are saying she out-played Trump. So what does that make him?
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:32 PM
 
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You speak as if this were a game and only Trump lost. We the people were held hostage by both Pelosi and Trump while they had their C*&k measuring contest at the peoples expense.

The left cries the wall is a waste. Yeah where were those cries as Obama doubled our debt to include a 40 million dollar gas station in Afghanistan? How about Obama's 1 trillion dollar F-35? What about 2 billion+ for the Unaffordable care act web sight?

The left can say they opposed the wall because it was a waste of tax dollars, but their history illustrates the hypocrisy in that. They opposed it because it was Trump's pork.

Pelosi as well as Trump is a national embarrassment. The groupies on both sides empower these prima donnas.
Agree, and it's scary that Trump and Pelosi are the virtue of America. Team sports at it's finest. If anyone really believes either care about Americans and their safety, I have land to sell you South of the Rio Grande.

Two wolves at each other's throats. One naked and one in a sheep costume. I'm not sure which I'd side with, the one I can see coming, or the one I can't. Our political arena needs an overhaul.
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I question the sanity of people who put a woman with obvious senior dementia in charge of the house.


So in addition to being a Politics and Controversies pundit you're a board certified gerontologist.
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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Nancy Pelosi - the most powerful person in America??????

Not at all. She is only a house representative representing San Francisco Bay area. She is not even a Senator.
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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They are not even the most powerful. The most powerful are those who control the media, our money and our military industrial complex. I would say that for now, the most powerful are the Rothschilds who own the Federal Reserve bank.

And Pelos is nobody, she is just a puppet for whoever is pulling her strings.
I wouldn't say the Rothschilds are the most powerful, but that's not a bad way to think. I would say we have to include all the other political and financial family dynasties. Koch family, Bush family, Clinton family, Walton family, etc.

https://www.investopedia.com/article...lies-world.asp


But yes, Nancy is a nobody with no power, only a puppet to her donors, supporters, lobbyists, etc. People with true power, don't rely on a government salary... Like Trump.
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