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Old 02-06-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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Protect the view that our country was founded on, the view held by most Americans and, really, every moral person: the views of Christianity. If promoting one religion is unavoidable, let's at least promote the right one. Let's do it now.
So does T. Jefferson having sex and children with his slaves...or B. Franklin chasing women all over the world and taking opium.....do those types of things reflect Christian views?

How about slavery? That was a really big one for all the Founders South of the Mason Dixon line?

I'm just wondering exactly what part of the Founders one would accept - and which they would call immoral??

 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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OP wants a theocracy just like another unnamed poster on here.

You worship your God and let the us of enjoy our freedom to do what we want.
Your leftwing government isn't allowing Christians their freedom. You seem to fine with following your atheist religion, while we can't follow ours.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yes, burdell, your age is showing; as is mine. All Fridays were meat free, not only during Lent. Do you recall fasting after midnight as necessary before communion? Women had to cover their heads whenever stepping into a church. Women forbidden to step foot in the altar area, except to clean it. Masses always in Latin.

I remember the bolded but not the part of women forbidden to step foot in the altar area. What gets me now is apparently you can eat a cow on Friday and still be in the church's good graces. Small wonder I now consider myself a recovering Catholic.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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Your leftwing government isn't allowing Christians their freedom. You seem to fine with following your atheist religion, while we can't follow ours.
You are free to abstain from masturbation as much as you want! I hereby decree it!
 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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Your leftwing government isn't allowing Christians their freedom. You seem to fine with following your atheist religion, while we can't follow ours.

WHat specific freedoms has government taken from Christians?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Your leftwing government isn't allowing Christians their freedom. You seem to fine with following your atheist religion, while we can't follow ours.
I'm a Christian, and I feel completely unobstructed.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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1) IT IS NOT being forced on anyone. It's simple: Don't believe in abortion? DON'T have one! BTW, NICE job of conveniently ignoring we ALL also deal with the fallout and consequences of unwanted children being brought into the world.

2) WHAT makes you believe your judgement of morality should be everyone's standard?

3) By your (il)logic, since the law allows alcohol & tobacco, is everyone having alcohol &N tobacco forced on them?
Of course immorality and bad law affect the entire community, even if only some participate. I gave the example of the HIV epidemic in America.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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Then, once again, you need to tell us you want the establishment clause eliminated.

I also already gave a list of countries where Roman Catholicism is the official religion. Why don't you move to one of them if you don't like it here?
So you can't tell me how I'm wrong?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:41 AM
 
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Of course immorality and bad law affect the entire community, even if only some participate. I gave the example of the HIV epidemic in America.

But you have yet to give a good, logical example.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 11:42 AM
 
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constitutional amendment that says "No law shall violate Christian teaching"

Absurd.

Soon afterward we would have amendments that said "No law shall violate Buddhist teaching", "No law shall violate Aboriginal American traditional religious teaching", and then "No law shall violate Muslim teaching".

We must not establish any sort of precedent along these lines, ever. It is foolhardy to even contemplate.
No, the Christian religion should have precedence, since it is impossible for the law not to conflict with some religion. If you have to pick one, pick the best and most popular one.
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