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A gut wrenching subject. Killing babies, no matter what stage of life. Can't be justified so hurry hurry. Change the subject. Called deflection.
Would you be willing to have your taxes increased sharply to maintain the life of an infant born with severe birth defects such as that in this true story?
Would you be willing to have your taxes increased sharply to maintain the life of an infant born with severe birth defects such as that in this true story?
Yes., although I'm certain taxes would not need to be raised "sharply." As a matter of fact, with sensible cuts to things like our bloated defense budget, taxes wouldn't need to be raised at all.
And I find your premise that people with severe disabilities ("Ya know...we're actually doing them a favor") should be killed revolting. In all likelihood, if you had such a child, your humanity would be awakened.
Does the actual number matter? I spent a lot of time saving the life of a mother 20 weeks pregnant and hemorrhaging to death. She had a partial placental abruption behind which she was bleeding profusely. The intact portion of the placenta was still maintaining a fetal heartbeat so the catholic hospital would not terminate the pregnancy to save the mother's life. She was flown to a medical center that saved her life by terminating the pregnancy.
What matters is the catholic church believes the mother should die (be martyred) with the baby in circumstances such as this and both will die. If one life can be saved, wouldn't that be the pro-life stance?
It does. I would go so far as to call this a "bad faith argument." I think it's offered up not because it's an actual concern, but because of its emotional appeal as a talking point. As a general principle, arguing by the exception, and in this case, a very minute exception, versus the rule, is a weak argument.
If I said to you that transgender people should be disallowed to enter the restrooms opposite their biological sex because there have been a handful of cases in which biological males have entered women's restrooms for nefarious purposes and then claimed to identify as women, I feel safe in saying some of you same people would reject that principle based on a minute exception.
It does. I would go so far as to call this a "bad faith argument." I think it's offered up not because it's an actual concern, but because of its emotional appeal as a talking point. As a general principle, arguing by the exception, and in this case, a very minute exception, versus the rule, is a weak argument.
If I said to you that transgender people should be disallowed to enter the restrooms opposite their biological sex because there have been a handful of cases in which biological males have entered women's restrooms for nefarious purposes and then claimed to identify as women, I feel safe in saying some of you same people would reject that principle based on a minute exception.
Hey now. Don't drag us into this. This is between you who can reproduce.
Yep - for them, life begins at conception and ends at birth!
For a standout example of how that is all too pitifully true, laws have been proposed to do something about the horrific problem where women throw their newborns into dumpsters. To discourage this, a law would allow a woman to hand over her newborn to a trusted party without questions being asked. But many pro-life people are strongly opposed to such a law, because it would let off the woman from charges of child abandonment.
For a standout example of how that is all too pitifully true, laws have been proposed to do something about the horrific problem where women throw their newborns into dumpsters. To discourage this, a law would allow a woman to hand over her newborn to a trusted party without questions being asked. But many pro-life people are strongly opposed to such a law, because it would let off the woman from charges of child abandonment.
It should be noted that the Supreme Court just rejected a highly-restrictive Louisiana law that would have made it difficult, if not impossible, for a woman to have an abortion in that state. Voting 5-4, to throw out the law, chief justice John Roberts voted with the majority. Gorsuch, Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh voted to uphold it. I guess Trump thought by stacking the court with his puppets to gain a conservative majority, he could gain points with his base supporters. But he overlooked the complication to that, which is Chief Justice Roberts being an honorable man, who will take the side of justice and fair play.
Trump's two recent appointees taking the side of the anti-abortion conservatives, sends an ominous warning of how they might vote on a challenge to Roe vs. Wade, if one more conservative stooge is imposed on us, in that court. If the Republican majority in the Senate confirms another conservative justice, they will be pounding more nails into the coffin of their reign of destruction and oppression. The majority of voters wouldn't forget that in 2020, when many of them will be at risk of losing their bids for re election.
Does the actual number matter? I spent a lot of time saving the life of a mother 20 weeks pregnant and hemorrhaging to death. She had a partial placental abruption behind which she was bleeding profusely. The intact portion of the placenta was still maintaining a fetal heartbeat so the catholic hospital would not terminate the pregnancy to save the mother's life. She was flown to a medical center that saved her life by terminating the pregnancy.
What matters is the catholic church believes the mother should die (be martyred) with the baby in circumstances such as this and both will die. If one life can be saved, wouldn't that be the pro-life stance?
I'd catch a bullet for my daughter.
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