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Old 02-12-2019, 10:08 AM
 
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It's absolutely a total non-issue.

The guy was legally in the right to defend his livestock, plus mountain lions are abundant in California.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...ery-debate.amp

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A California family's decision to shoot and kill a hungry mountain lion during the animal's attempt to feast on its third sheep over three consecutive nights is being fiercely debated by locals, as some argue killing the big cat wasn't necessary.

Alejandra Calderon, of Napa, estimated the mountain lion was only about 20 feet from their home when her husband — a hunter — delivered the fatal blow on Saturday. The young mountain lion was being tracked by Audubon Canyon Ranch, a non-profit conservation and research group based in Stinson Beach, at the time.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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Not finding a fiery debate. More like a handful of people with not much to do making a stir on social media, and news stations looking for a story decided to run with it like its a big deal. From the 2 other stories I read, the "debate" is more focused on finding out if the guy really shot the lion so close to his home and why he hadn't reported the other incidents (he said there were 3.) When threatening human life, killing them is permitted with no restrictions. If they are bothering livestock, a permit is supposed to be obtained. This is normal procedure for killing them outside of hunting season and anyone with livestock and a farm should know that. It is also normal procedure to investigate killing them without a permit.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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It's absolutely a total non-issue.

The guy was legally in the right to defend his livestock, plus mountain lions are abundant in California.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...ery-debate.amp
So they could tell by looking at the mountain lion that it was hungry?
After feasting on sheep for two nights in a row it appeared "hungry". Really.

Since there is a huge effort at preservation in California...perhaps a cellie call to local s who could trank and relocate the big cat. with a cam collar..then it s crimes will be caught on camera.
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Old 02-12-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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So they could tell by looking at the mountain lion that it was hungry?
After feasting on sheep for two nights in a row it appeared "hungry". Really.

Since there is a huge effort at preservation in California...perhaps a cellie call to local s who could trank and relocate the big cat. with a cam collar..then it s crimes will be caught on camera.
One article I read said this was one which had been captured, collared, and relocated after causing trouble elsewhere.
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Old 02-12-2019, 02:50 PM
 
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That is why they have livestock guardian dogs like the Caucasian Ovcharka, Turkish Kangal, and many more!
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Old 02-12-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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In Colorado they choke them to death.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Lions shouldn't even be protected in CA. They are such a problem neighboring states all buy give away mt lion tags. The area we hunted N of Phoenix we saw two lion kills on cattle in just one week.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Not finding a fiery debate. More like a handful of people with not much to do making a stir on social media, and news stations looking for a story decided to run with it like its a big deal. From the 2 other stories I read, the "debate" is more focused on finding out if the guy really shot the lion so close to his home and why he hadn't reported the other incidents (he said there were 3.) When threatening human life, killing them is permitted with no restrictions. If they are bothering livestock, a permit is supposed to be obtained. This is normal procedure for killing them outside of hunting season and anyone with livestock and a farm should know that. It is also normal procedure to investigate killing them without a permit.
Have you ever tried to get a permit? It's not fast that's all I'll say.


SSS is the way to go with these problem cats. Burn the friggin collar.
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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That is why they have livestock guardian dogs like the Caucasian Ovcharka, Turkish Kangal, and many more!
Yeah but where's the fun in having dogs preclude you getting to shoot something live?


Exhibit "A" : https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...h7j?li=AAggFp4
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:04 PM
 
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Not finding a fiery debate. More like a handful of people with not much to do making a stir on social media, and news stations looking for a story decided to run with it...

Yup. A manufactured "debate" designed to feed the conservative California bashers.
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