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Old 02-18-2019, 07:39 AM
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Location: On the Border
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McCabe is under criminal investigation. Trump is not.
Really? Picking nits, you are.
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Old 02-18-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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If you watched that interview and came away thinking McCabe is the problem....you are part of the problem.


We have a sitting president that asked the director of the FBI to ask his wife "what it feels like to be a loser". I know you are all morally bankrupt but think about what a horrible human being you must be to do something like that.
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:29 AM
 
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McCabe was doing his job and following the constitution. It provided for the removal of an unbalanced president. We have have a president that often appears unbalanced. Not considering provisions of the constitution would be shirking responsibilities.

People should be looking at the mental state of Trump. That is the real threat to our nation.
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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They were plotting a coup against their boss without a single relevant party in the room. Only the Cabinet members can invoke the 25th. None were present. They had no legal basis for even discussing the matter. On the high seas, they'd call that mutiny. But the land lubbers of the world use words like "coup d'etat" and "treason." The American people elected the man and your opinion of your new boss is irrelevant.
They were only discussing the difficulties of invoking the 25th amendment. Since the discussion was between the Lt. Attorney General and the #2 in our federal investigative service, it was legal as the implementation of the 25th amendment was within their jurisdiction.

It's neither a coup nor a mutiny to discuss a law and how a law could be implemented, especially with something that has never been done before. Congress holds discussions like this all the time.

Nothing ever came from those talks, and the topic was never discussed again. There was never a plot, so there was no treason.

Since the 25th amendment is an instrument that allows a President's Cabinet to remove him from office, a coup d'etat would be much more likely to come from the Cabinet, not the AG.

All the AG could do is advise the Cabinet, and all the FBI could do is provide evidence the Cabinet required.
The members of the Cabinet would have to do all the heavy lifting in using the 25th Amendment.

Since more than half the country thinks Trump is crazier than a peach orchard boar, the discussion was reasonable. It was nothing but a "What If?" conversation; the AG's office and the FBI would both have roles to play in such an event, but neither may be able to initiate the event by the way the law is written.

The 25th Amendment is the hardest way to remove a crazy president.

It was designed to be difficult, because it's designed for the most extreme moments when an insane President could hit the Big Red Button in a panic. An event that wasn't covered by the founding fathers.

Impeachment is easier, and those procedures have been used more often.
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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"Fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s book tour began with a “60 minutes” interview this week in which he confirmed that he commenced an effort to remove President Trump from office, citing his concerns with the president’s supposed ties to Russia, for which no evidence has ever surfaced."

Andrew McCabe was far from the only FBI official to disgrace himself. Other now-fired FBI officials, such as James Comey and Peter Strzok, helped transform the FBI into a political weapon to sabotage the president through the baseless Trump-Russia investigation. There are still only two primary explanations for their conduct. The first is they were simply incompetent and commenced a probe without sufficient nonpartisan evidence. The second and more likely explanation is that McCabe and his cohorts were on a hell-bent quest to overturn the results of the election. Call it what it was: a soft coup attempt. Luckily for our republic, the coup attempt failed."

Hard to believe this could happen in our country. How would the media act if the Obama administration was treated this way?
He needs to be investigated completely. What a complete idiot this shady McCabe dude is.

The whole FBI upper level management is clearly slanted against Trump. They've turned the FBI into a circus and obvious Democrat-leaning organization. They've made a total mockery out of the FBI.

Can't help but think Mueller is probably silently sh*tting his pants right now, as the basis for his hoax investigation completely begins to crumble.

Pass the popcorn as the tables turn on these clowns. Unreal--wow!
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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He needs to be investigated completely. What a complete idiot this shady McCabe dude is.

The whole FBI upper level management is clearly slanted against Trump. They've turned the FBI into a circus and obvious Democrat-leaning organization. They've made a total mockery out of the FBI.

Can't help but think Mueller is probably silently sh*tting his pants right now, as the basis for his hoax investigation completely begins to crumble.

Pass the popcorn as the tables turn on these clowns. Unreal--wow!
Your post indicates a short memory. Comey single handedly elected Trump. And now you think that was because he wanted a coup?
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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He needs to be investigated completely. What a complete idiot this shady McCabe dude is.

The whole FBI upper level management is clearly slanted against Trump. They've turned the FBI into a circus and obvious Democrat-leaning organization. They've made a total mockery out of the FBI.

Can't help but think Mueller is probably silently sh*tting his pants right now, as the basis for his hoax investigation completely begins to crumble.

Pass the popcorn as the tables turn on these clowns. Unreal--wow!
Uh huh. Deep down all of the Trump base knows what McCabe said is true and you are worried.

The FBI is not the problem here. Trump and his family of tools are the problem.
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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Lindsey Graham says he will have a investigation. I say let’s have a sworn public hearing. Let’s get all the players under oath and out where Americans can hear the whole story. Let’s see what led REPUBLICAN members of the Trump Administration (* only the best people) to even consider using the odious 25th amendment. Let’s shine a light on it all, and see what turns up. I dare Graham to to do this, but, I bet he won’t.
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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McCabe is under criminal investigation. Trump is not.



I would not be so sure about that.
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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It would not be a coup. The constitution provides for the removal of a mentally unfit president. Trump's erratic behavior begs whether he is mentally stable and fit for the office.


It is interesting that so many Trump supporters are against the US constitution. They want it disregarded when it please them such as with the national emergency declaration that circumvents congress. They also argue that a constitutional provision in place to protect the US from an unfit POTUS is somehow a coup. Why do Trump supporters have such disdain for the US Constitution?
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