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Old 02-23-2019, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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And your point is ? While this was happening, there were a lot more crimes being committed by American citizens...…....but that doesn't fit your biased agenda, does it ? You take one event and stretch it to ALL immigrants are killers, which is pure nonsense and factually incorrect.
This doesn't make any sense at all.


If this particular illegal alien wasn't here, this incident would have never occurred. He shouldn't have been here.
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Old 02-23-2019, 07:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by SpiritualBaseball View Post
Such see through bull****

How about all the lives saved through illegal immigration?


EDIT
Probably should expound on this a bit more

Someone who murders someone in the US, what do you think the likelihood of them murdering someone outside of the US was?
0%?
You think that coming to the US illegally caused them to murder someone?
Or, maybe they were likely (but probably not 100%) to murder someone outside of the US?

Do you think they are more likely to be brought to justice outside of the US or inside? Will being brought to justice for committing a murder make them more likely to commit another murder, less likely to commit another murder, or no change?

And, of course, those that escaped murder by illegally crossing?



This argument of "each and every death caused by an illegal alien" is only very thinly veiled xenophobia - thinking the life of an American is more valuable than the life of a foreigner.

Dear, if they will murder no matter where they live I would prefer they stay in their own country. That is not to say I do not care that they murdered a fellow countryman or woman, just that I would prefer not to have someone come into the US and murder an American.
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:05 AM
 
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The people fleeing Honduras for the USA are doing so for economic reasons. What makes America less safe is our porous border.
Honduras' economic problems are largely the fault of the United States


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Dear, if they will murder no matter where they live I would prefer they stay in their own country. That is not to say I do not care that they murdered a fellow countryman or woman, just that I would prefer not to have someone come into the US and murder an American.
You value the lives of Americans more than the lives of Hondurans, how is that not Xenophobia?


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Why are you defending the illegal alien instead of the cop?
Where have I defended the illegal alien instead of the cop?
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When has anyone ever said that??? Why lying pieces of crap they are!
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Old 02-24-2019, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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She handled the situation great. No panic, returned fire and neutralized the threat. When will the non-sense end?


Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Hernandez Morales has been deported three times before 2011 – twice in 2007 and once again in 2010.

Since then, ICE had issued four separate detainers for him related to various arrests including suspicion of driving under the influence, battery on a peace officer and unknown probation violations.

ICE said detainers were issued to Napa County Jail in 2014, 2015 and 2016 while Sonoma County Jail received one in 2016. None of the detainers were honored by jail staff.






https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-who-s...ainer-feds-say
Oh well, one less criminal running around.
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Old 02-24-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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Are there illegals who are no good ? Yep. Are there natural born citizens who are no good ? Absolutely. But you guys hold up one rotten apple as an example of a failed system and a mark on all aliens, both legal and otherwise.

Here is the fallacy of your theory about deporting this bum. He would be right back here in a week, regardless of if you built a wall to the Heavens. Criminals are going to be criminals.
"Are there illegals who are no good ? Yep."

The FACT they ARE ILLEGAL makes them CRIMINALS and "no good"!

"
crim·i·nalDictionary result for criminal


/ˈkrim(ə)n(ə)l/
noun
noun: criminal; plural noun: criminals
1.
a person who has committed a crime.

They BROKE our imagination LAWS. THAT makes them CRIMINALS. PERIOD!

The CONTINUE to break MORE laws EVERY DAY they are HERE.

" of a failed system"

B.S

Our system has NOT failed,

What HAS failed, are those that want to IGNORE IT, like with 'sanctuary" cities, etc.

You come her ILLEGALLY, you get DEPORTED.

Come back AGAIN get sent to JAIL.

Start putting enough in jail and the others will STOP coming!
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Old 02-24-2019, 07:07 AM
 
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California Leftist were determined to shield and shelter this “real piece of crap”.
Sorta goes along with how much they protect these Criminal Illegal Aliens instead of American Taxpayers.

"California Leftist were determined to shield and shelter this “real piece of crap”."


And SHOULD be charged with breaking existing laws about "aiding and abetting ILLEGALS".


Until the fed cracks down on them, they will CONTINUE they ILLEGAL actions.


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8 U.S. Code § 1324. Bringing in and harboring certain aliens

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(a) Criminal penalties (1) (A) Any person who— (i) knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;

(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;

(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;

(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or

(v) (I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or

(II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,


shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).

(B) A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs— (i) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i) or (v)(I) or in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), or (iv) in which the offense was done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both;

(ii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;

(iii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) during and in relation to which the person causes serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, or places in jeopardy the life of, any person, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both; and

(iv) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.


(C) It is not a violation of clauses [1] (ii) or (iii) of subparagraph (A), or of clause (iv) of subparagraph (A) except where a person encourages or induces an alien to come to or enter the United States, for a religious denomination having a bona fide nonprofit, religious organization in the United States, or the agents or officers of such denomination or organization, to encourage, invite, call, allow, or enable an alien who is present in the United States to perform the vocation of a minister or missionary for the denomination or organization in the United States as a volunteer who is not compensated as an employee, notwithstanding the provision of room, board, travel, medical assistance, and other basic living expenses, provided the minister or missionary has been a member of the denomination for at least one year.


(2) Any person who, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien shall, for each alien in respect to whom a violation of this paragraph occurs— (A) be fined in accordance with title 18 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; or

(B) in the case of— (i) an offense committed with the intent or with reason to believe that the alien unlawfully brought into the United States will commit an offense against the United States or any State punishable by imprisonment for more than 1 year,

(ii) an offense done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or

(iii) an offense in which the alien is not upon arrival immediately brought and presented to an appropriate immigration officer at a designated port of entry,

be fined under title 18 and shall be imprisoned, in the case of a first or second violation of subparagraph (B)(iii), not more than 10 years, in the case of a first or second violation of subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii), not less than 3 nor more than 10 years, and for any other violation, not less than 5 nor more than 15 years.


(3)


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324
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Old 02-24-2019, 07:09 AM
 
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We could quit ****ing up central american, and south american, and african, and asian, and european, countries but corporate profit is more important.

I know it's TOUGH but, TRY to stay on topic OR you WILL BE REPORTED!
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Old 02-24-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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So you are okay with importing more criminals because gee it’s not fair that only US citizens are allowed to commit crimes, right?

He has the typical Hispanic tribal mentality that trumps our immigration laws, thus his anti-American remarks.
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Old 02-24-2019, 08:57 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Are there illegals who are no good ? Yep. Are there natural born citizens who are no good ? Absolutely. But you guys hold up one rotten apple as an example of a failed system and a mark on all aliens, both legal and otherwise.

Here is the fallacy of your theory about deporting this bum. He would be right back here in a week, regardless of if you built a wall to the Heavens. Criminals are going to be criminals.
No, your fallacy. We only discuss ILLEGAL aliens.
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Old 02-24-2019, 09:00 AM
 
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And your point is ? While this was happening, there were a lot more crimes being committed by American citizens...…....but that doesn't fit your biased agenda, does it ? You take one event and stretch it to ALL immigrants are killers, which is pure nonsense and factually incorrect.



WOW, look a the support for this....


Hey, if he would not have been here....think long and hard about it....
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