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Old 03-01-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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4% of Agricultural workers WHERE are illegal? Because no one in their right mind believes that number.
There's a difference between illegals and seasonal migrant workers, who are allowed to be here. They're the ones who make up the bulk of ag workers - not illegals.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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Congressmen Mo Brooks (R AL-5) introduced the bill and Bradley Byrne (R Al-1) cosponsors. Great leadership...get it done!

https://yellowhammernews.com/alabama...2019/undefined
Interesting...there was talk of a bill last year and it was refused from the get go. I guess they are going to present to a Democrat controlled House, have it turned down again and then blame Democrats for it....meanwhile -- when the Republicans were in charge they couldn't even get it to the floor for a vote.

From June of last year.....https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/pol...213791734.html
After weeks of wrangling, it's still unclear if the full immigration bill has the votes to pass. The vote was delayed twice last week as it became obvious it would not appeal to enough Republicans to pass. The GOP controls 235 of the House's 435 seats.

Seems that e-verify isn't popular with 'agricultural groups' ---
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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Alabama is definitely one state that can hardly afford to pass it. They’re HEAVILY dependent on cheap illegal farm labor.
That already happened in 2011. Remember when all the crops rotted in the field after the illegal immigration crack down because Americans have neither the physical or mental capacity to pick tomatoes. Of course most of Alabama's farm "crops" are chickens and cattle. I dont recall hearing about dead chickens and cows.
And no one starved.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:51 AM
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Interesting...there was talk of a bill last year and it was refused from the get go. I guess they are going to present to a Democrat controlled House, have it turned down again and then blame Democrats for it....meanwhile -- when the Republicans were in charge they couldn't even get it to the floor for a vote.

From June of last year.....https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/pol...213791734.html
After weeks of wrangling, it's still unclear if the full immigration bill has the votes to pass. The vote was delayed twice last week as it became obvious it would not appeal to enough Republicans to pass. The GOP controls 235 of the House's 435 seats.

Seems that e-verify isn't popular with 'agricultural groups' ---
I have to agree with you
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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"Leading the Charge" - so they must have therefore done this a decade or two ago???
How many employers have they jailed?


"E-Verify was originally established in 1996 as the Basic Pilot Program to prevent illegal immigrants and other people who have violated immigration laws from obtaining employment illegally in the United States."
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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Isn’t that what H2a visas are for?
Yep.

But H2a’s are heavily regulated and you have to pay them better. This IS Alabama we’re talking about here. If they were using the H2a program in the first place, this wouldn’t be an issue. It’s an issue because they want dirt cheap illegal farm labor that they can treat capriciously and pay the lowest wages.

Again...ALABAMA. Paying market wages is communism down there.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:56 AM
 
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There's a difference between illegals and seasonal migrant workers, who are allowed to be here. They're the ones who make up the bulk of ag workers - not illegals.
The crops don’t care who picks ‘em. That’s semantical.

Again, in 2014, illegal aliens made up 36% of ALL agricultural workers! So don’t tell me that the number is 4%. That’s just bull****!

If the number were only 4%, there’d be no issue here.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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"Leading the Charge" - so they must have therefore done this a decade or two ago???
How many employers have they jailed?


"E-Verify was originally established in 1996 as the Basic Pilot Program to prevent illegal immigrants and other people who have violated immigration laws from obtaining employment illegally in the United States."
Not one. And they’ll never jail an employer.
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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4% of Agricultural workers WHERE are illegal? Because no one in their right mind believes that number.

In 2014, they made up 36% of ALL farm labor with 244,000 people. That’s ALL farm jobs...which includes the mechanized jobs. So in the human labor intensive jobs, that percentage is FAR higher.

Come on...don’t peddle lies like that. You know better. You live in a state where illegal farm labor is huge.
A mere 4% sounds like leftist propaganda trying to downplay how many illegals have invaded our country. It's likely 10 times that number if not more.
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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Not one. And they’ll never jail an employer.
Well, then, they certainly aren't leading anything except the PR war.

This would be like rounding up dope addicts but knowing who the big dealers and smugglers were and never touching them. Not exactly "leading" in getting rid of that meth!

It's quite elementary to know this is an economic issues and unless you put a big hurting on the "dealers" (the employers, in this case), nothing is gonna happen.

The last thing we need are 40-100K per person costs in playing revolving door with each individual who works on a farm.
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