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Old 04-06-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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I love this new term Homeless Industrial Complex, don't you? Perfectly describes why problems in the West Coast cities continue to get worse. Some clever, greedy politicians and their cronies have figured out a way to monetize vagrancy, drug and alcohol addiction and mental illness. The article is about Seattle but applies to every West Coast city.

The activist class—a political and cultural elite comprising leaders in government, nonprofits, philanthropy, and media—has enforced a strict taboo on declaring the obvious: something is terribly wrong in the Emerald City.

The city’s nonprofit and academic partners—mainstays of the homeless-industrial complex—have also launched coordinated attacks against the critics. Timothy Harris, director of Real Change News, has argued that grassroots neighborhood groups like Speak Out Seattle and labor unions like the Iron Workers Local 86 who opposed the city’s head tax are “alt-right” white supremacists, bigots, and fascists. Catherine Hinrichsen, director of the Project on Family Homelessness at Seattle University, accused Johnson [produced the Seattle is Dying documentary] of “hate-mongering” and spreading “fear.”

After dictating homelessness policy for a generation, the activist class is losing the narrative—and this accounts for its increasingly desperate counterattacks. As their support among voters erodes and principled journalists like Johnson break the silence about homelessness, they fall back on branding their concerned neighbors “bigots,” “fascists,” and “white supremacists.” It’s not working the way it used to. In Seattle, a reckoning on homelessness may not be far off.

What is funny about the usual Progressive name calling is that Seattle is something like 95% Democrat! The money to combat the problem went into paying non-profit execs six-figure salaries, hiring staff, writing proposals, etc. It's a new business model for scamming The System.

https://www.city-journal.org/seattle...g-homelessness
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Old 04-06-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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Democrats always profit by keeping poverty, anarchy, race-baiting, hate-mongering, and societal dysfunction alive and well, thus perpetuating an angry VICTIMHOOD mentality which means votes, vote, votes, and funding $$$ for them.
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Old 04-06-2019, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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There is no homeless problem.

There's a property rights problem (lack of to be exact).
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Old 04-06-2019, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Ummm... Please explain this.
Sure.

Homeless people do not congregate, mill around, or sleep on private property (of course there are a few rare exceptions). That would be "illegal" and property owners do call the State to remove them. And the State, even in cities like Seattle, L.A., and San Francisco, acknowledges the rights of the property owners by acting (coming out and telling the homeless to move along).

Homeless people congregate, mill around, and sleep on what is known as public property. Since no individual owns that property, and isn't allowed to own it, it is up to the discretion of the State on what to do with the homeless.

If the State didn't exist or allow this to occur the homeless would have no where to go. All land would be private and any unused land would be up for grabs. If a homeless person wished to use it they too would have to rightfully claim the land by homesteading it/mixing their labor with it in some way. In short, they would have to become productive like regular private property owners.
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Old 04-06-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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I love this new term Homeless Industrial Complex, don't you? Perfectly describes why problems in the West Coast cities continue to get worse. Some clever, greedy politicians and their cronies have figured out a way to monetize vagrancy, drug and alcohol addiction and mental illness. The article is about Seattle but applies to every West Coast city.

The activist class—a political and cultural elite comprising leaders in government, nonprofits, philanthropy, and media—has enforced a strict taboo on declaring the obvious: something is terribly wrong in the Emerald City.

The city’s nonprofit and academic partners—mainstays of the homeless-industrial complex—have also launched coordinated attacks against the critics. Timothy Harris, director of Real Change News, has argued that grassroots neighborhood groups like Speak Out Seattle and labor unions like the Iron Workers Local 86 who opposed the city’s head tax are “alt-right” white supremacists, bigots, and fascists. Catherine Hinrichsen, director of the Project on Family Homelessness at Seattle University, accused Johnson [produced the Seattle is Dying documentary] of “hate-mongering” and spreading “fear.”

After dictating homelessness policy for a generation, the activist class is losing the narrative—and this accounts for its increasingly desperate counterattacks. As their support among voters erodes and principled journalists like Johnson break the silence about homelessness, they fall back on branding their concerned neighbors “bigots,” “fascists,” and “white supremacists.” It’s not working the way it used to. In Seattle, a reckoning on homelessness may not be far off.

What is funny about the usual Progressive name calling is that Seattle is something like 95% Democrat! The money to combat the problem went into paying non-profit execs six-figure salaries, hiring staff, writing proposals, etc. It's a new business model for scamming The System.

https://www.city-journal.org/seattle...g-homelessness
I totally agree with this. There's a reason our problems aren't being solved and that reason is the thousands of people with paychecks will disappear when the problem is solved. What was the number? 400 million plus that has been thrown at this problem and nothing has changed?

Politicians and bureaucratic parasites enriching themselves off of the misery of others. There's not many things I can think of more disgusting. Maybe the Nazis and the Fascists of Ukraine today.
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Old 04-06-2019, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The problem with this is that they wouldn't.

The issue of homelessness is far more complex than that.
No, it really isn't.

What happens when someone has full private property rights and most if not all the land is privatized?

They get to defend their home. If the homeless insist on sleeping in your yard or taking a dump on your driveway just bring out the 12-gauge.

They have 3 choices:

1. Become productive as to not infringe on the property rights of others.
2. Move along.
3. Get eliminated, morally and logically, when they infringe on the property rights of others.

It's very simple. The State creates the problem and then exacerbates it by not allowing individuals to own property and defend their property. Zoning laws and minimum wage laws don't help either.
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Old 04-06-2019, 03:41 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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I bet 100% of homeless people are liberals.
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Old 04-06-2019, 03:56 PM
 
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what I see in Seattle in all the subsidized apt complexes all over Seattle is mostly south American and central American families living in these complexes...large families with children. My friend lives in one of these complexes. And its all Hispanic families. I don't know if there illegal or not. But it seems to me that American citizens in Seattle are not getting into these complexes and are not being prioritized. Seattle has a brutally bad homeless problem. I feel for them. I don't doubt that these liberal non profits are lining there own pockets. I don't believe Seattle cares much about their homeless unless its illegal families in need. Especially because they have a ton of children whereby the American homeless citizen does not. Therefore they are given priority for subsidized housing while American citizens wait years on long housing lists. There should be a nation wide outrage about this....but the bleeding hearts would remain silent on the issue due to their agenda of putting illegals before American citizens and their white guilt.

https://tucson.com/news/many-illegal...0cf131394.html

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Old 04-06-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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the "homeless problem" is a campaign issue: politicians need it to get re-elected.
the "homeless problem" attracts donations: no homeless, no donations, no job.
the "homeless problem" has transformed into the "ILLEGAL immigration problem".
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Old 04-06-2019, 04:15 PM
 
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Its about putting illegal aliens before American citizens. Especially in regard to housing. American citizens sometimes have to wait up tp ten years on housing lists while illegal alien families and refugees get low income housing right away.
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