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Old 04-06-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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Yes, that is a very interesting story.

It turns out that Christie had prosecuted Charles Kushner, Jared's dad, as US atty. Charles was a very successful and wealthy real estate developer in NJ, but also quite the sleaze-ball. He got a prostitute to set up and blackmail an associate who he feared might testify against him.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/30/u...s-kushner.html

Charles Kushner wound up doing 14 months in federal prison, and Jared apparently never got over it. According to Christie, it was Steve Bannon who fired him, and would not initially admit where the order was coming from. Christie says he kind of dragged it out of Bannon that the order came from Jared.
That's interesting. Was the show Arrested Development based on the Kushners?
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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It wasn't about winning.



He's lying. There is a reason he got so little support.
'little support?' He won re-election by 60%, running as a Republican in a blue state (had voted 58-41 for Obama just the year before). In any case, 'little support' is not evidence that he lied. You have to do a little better than that to prove your accusation that he lied.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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'little support?' He won re-election by 60%, running as a Republican in a blue state (had voted 58-41 for Obama just the year before). In any case, 'little support' is not evidence that he lied. You have to do a little better than that to prove your accusation that he lied.
As president. New Jersey hasn't been all that particular about corruption.

There are emails on record from Christina Genovese Renna where she states "he flat out lied".
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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As president. New Jersey hasn't been all that particular about corruption.

There are emails on record from Christina Genovese Renna where she states "he flat out lied".
As president what? Are your posts supposed to be a guessing game?

Who is Christina Genovese Renna? She was not mentioned in the book. Does one accusation from one person constitute proof for you?
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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As president what? Are your posts supposed to be a guessing game?

Who is Christina Genovese Renna? She was not mentioned in the book. Does one accusation from one person constitute proof for you?
Hello, he’s referring to when Christie ran for president.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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Hello, he’s referring to when Christie ran for president.
They knew that. People feign ignorance when presented with things they wish to ignore .
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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They knew that. People feign ignorance when presented with things they wish to ignore .
I can only guess PUI. How are "they" supposed to guess the meaning of a sentence: "As president?"

Christie was one of 17 GOP contenders in 2016. Sixteen of them had to lose. What about the other 15--did their lack of support also constitute evidence that they were liars too? That seems to be your 'logic.'

You did not answer the question: does one email accusation from one person constitute evidence for you? BTW, I have no dog in this fight. I never voted for nor supported Chris Christie. But it's just frustrating to deal with idiocy.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:47 PM
 
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I can only guess PUI. How are "they" supposed to guess the meaning of a sentence: "As president?"

Christie was one of 17 GOP contenders in 2016. Sixteen of them had to lose. What about the other 15--did their lack of support also constitute evidence that they were liars too? That seems to be your 'logic.'
No it doesn't.

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You did not answer the question: does one email accusation from one person constitute evidence for you? BTW, I have no dog in this fight. I never voted for nor supported Chris Christie. But it's just frustrating to deal with idiocy.
He also points out that a lot of reporting about 'bridgegate' was not accurate. For example, there were never any lane closures.

Yes there were so we can add him lying in his own book if this is indeed what it says.

Did his aides simply march off to prison for something that never happened?
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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No it doesn't.
But that was the implication of your previous post. If I understand your sphinx-speak correctly, you said that Christie's lack of support as presidential candidate was evidence that he lied about 'bridgegate."


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He also points out that a lot of reporting about 'bridgegate' was not accurate. For example, there were never any lane closures.

Yes there were so we can add him lying in his own book if this is indeed what it says.

Did his aides simply march off to prison for something that never happened?
According to Christie's book, there were never any lane closures. He says that 2 of 3 bridge lanes devoted to Fort Lee, NJ were diverted to general use, which resulted in huge back-ups in Fort Lee. Being 2500 miles away, I don't know what the truth is. Interesting that the Wikipedia piece on this contradicts itself on the question:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_L...losure_scandal

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The problems began on Monday, September 9, 2013, when two of three toll lanes for a local street entrance were closed
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On Monday, September 9, 2013, prior to the morning rush hour on the first day of the school year,[50] two of the three dedicated toll lanes at one of the Fort Lee entrances[3][4] to the upper level of the GW Bridge were closed to local use, and were reallocated to the main highway traffic
Do you have definitive evidence as to whether the lanes were closed or just reallocated?
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:06 PM
 
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But that was the implication of your previous post. If I understand your sphinx-speak correctly, you said that Christie's lack of support as presidential candidate was evidence that he lied about 'bridgegate."
I said that his lack of support was because people did not believe him about the Bridge issue. Christie didn't even get support from N.J.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/10/polit...oll/index.html

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According to Christie's book, there were never any lane closures. He says that 2 of 3 bridge lanes devoted to Fort Lee, NJ were diverted to general use, which resulted in huge back-ups in Fort Lee. Being 2500 miles away, I don't know what the truth is. Interesting that the Wikipedia piece on this contradicts itself on the question:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_L...losure_scandal

Do you have definitive evidence as to whether the lanes were closed or just reallocated?
Answer my question that you avoided and you will have your answer.
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