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Old 04-22-2019, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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"Rape" quickly becomes a situation of -- it was casual sex gone bad and someone got pregnant accidentally. All of a sudden it's "date rape" which qualifies as "rape" which means a dead baby.
Draw your own conclusions.
So, in your opinion, women who claim they have been raped should be treated as if they are lying. Got it.

.......or is it just pregnant women who should be treated that way?

Thankfully, people like you aren't in charge of our justice system, rapists would have free reign.

"Sorry Miss, if you don't have video to prove you were raped, get lost."

........and pro-lifers claim they care about women, their health, their welfare.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:17 AM
 
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Not for the baby that was aborted. The fact that you gave the thumbs up emoji for abortion just tells me how depraved, callus and barbaric that we've become as a society. God help us all.
Like I care about your opinion.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:18 AM
 
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I wonder what newtovenice and others like her would do in this scenario.

They are 7 months pregnant and their two year old son dashes into the street and a truck is about to run him over.

Would they jump in front of the truck to push their two year old to safety or stand there safely on the sidewalk, cradling the fetus in their belly and just watch while their two year old gets killed?
Let’s be honest, we all know the answer is option 2.
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Old 04-22-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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Yes.....not only control them but somehow force them to think and feel just like they do.
There are also women who feel abortion is an exploitative practice and harms women.
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Old 04-22-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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And women who are alive today were also once babies in the womb and since they were here first, their choice gets to supersede the so-called rights of the one in their womb.

Well, let's do it the way you want. The next time a child needs a new heart or a new kidney, we just take it from you instead of putting them on the waiting list. Children are precious - you're not worth as much anymore. Can you give me ONE good reason why society shouldn't put you down and take your heart to put into a small child that needs one?

Go on, I'll wait.
Wait for what? Your argument is garbage.

My heart is mine. It belongs to me .. it is MY life. Not yours. You don't get to kill me.

Just like a baby's life belongs to the baby, not the mother. The baby's life belongs to the baby. The mother's life belongs to the mother.

The mother does not get to kill the baby.

It's the SAME argument for both scenarios.
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Old 04-22-2019, 12:47 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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What world event caused Hitler to have to kill 6 million Jews?
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1) It wasn't actually six-million Jews. I don't care to go into great detail here about the 6-million number(which has religious connotations), but if you want a primer, just google "Four million Auschwitz". The six-million number was based on that four-million estimate, which is no longer anywhere close to four-million.

2) Do you know anything about socialism? Do you know why Hitler hated the Jews? To put it in modern terms, Hitler was anti-globalist. And he especially hated what many refer to as the "International Bankers".

To explain the socialist position on the Jews, read the words of Karl Marx himself...


"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. [...] The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews. [...] In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jewish_Question


Or as a German political activist, Ulrike Meinhof, wrote after WWII...

"Auschwitz meant that six million Jews were killed, and thrown on the waste-heap of Europe, for what they were considered: money-Jews. Finance capital and the banks, the hard core of the system of imperialism and capitalism, had turned the hatred of men against money and exploitation, and against the Jews.... Antisemitism is really a hatred of capitalism."


3) Recently Illhan Omar has complained about the significant power of the "Jewish lobby". Especially in her criticisms of AIPAC and Zionism. Regardless of how you feel about Israel, don't you find it odd that the Jews seem to have such massive influence over US politics? If so, where does their influence/power come from?

The simple answer is, money. Money is power. And money uses its power to serve its own interests, often at the expense of the common people. Money can manipulate elections, it can propagandize the people, and it can start wars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NqG2lAojNQ
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Money is power.
Which is where abortion rights came from ... accomplish the same outcome, but through a different route.
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:00 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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What baby? What someone?

I have more respect for women than to put them on equal footing with an organism the size of a grape.
If given a chance might one day solve world problems ... but, that's to big to even think about.

If the powerful elites want to stay that way, what is a way to go about doing it --- kill the competition and give the right to the people who are more than willing to cooperate. Works for them.
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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If given a chance might one day solve world problems ... but, that's to big to even think about.

If the powerful elites want to stay that way, what is a way to go about doing it --- kill the competition and give the right to the people who are more than willing to cooperate. Works for them.
........or become another Adam Lanza, Timothy McVeigh or Ted Bundy.....and growing up knowing your own mother never wanted you is a good first step in that direction.....think about that.

The powerful elites? You mean the ones who will still have access to safe abortions even if it is illegal for everyone else?

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Old 04-22-2019, 01:53 PM
 
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If given a chance might one day solve world problems ... but, that's to big to even think about.

If the powerful elites want to stay that way, what is a way to go about doing it --- kill the competition and give the right to the people who are more than willing to cooperate. Works for them.
Or the next Ted Bundy
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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There are also women who feel abortion is an exploitative practice and harms women.
Then such women should not get abortions as a matter of choice and personal individual freedom. But a law passed that requires all pregnant women to give birth would be an exploitative practice that could harm women, leading to as much as death of the woman. If you dare give that much power for the government to decide the same way every time, what comes sooner or later? Requiring abortions against the will of the mother?
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