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Old 04-22-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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There is no evidence that the Russians did it because they did not.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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OK, I'll play along....what else is true simply because Mueller says so?
Trump did not work with the Russians to interfere with the election......I would hope that this is true -- because that's what Mueller said.
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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There is no evidence that the Russians did it because they did not.
Mueller says they did, and has evidence to prove it. A Grand Jury agreed with Mueller's evidence and handed down 25 indictments on individual Russians and 3 indictments on Russian companies.

That's all in black and white in his final report. Your claim there is no evidence is a lie.

Did the Russians do it? That's up to a jury to decide, not you or me. Mueller left it up to a jury. Trying to claim they did not do it is not your decision to make, nor is it mine. It's up to a proper judge and jury, not us.

Since the chances of ever thinking Putin's hand-picked bunch will ever be extradited to stand trial here are next to zero, neither of us, nor anyone else, will ever know if the Russians are guilty or not. But the fact there is strong evidence that indicates guilt, and it certainly does exist.

Mueller actually may have tried to arrest some of their leaders, but they were all given diplomatic immunity, so he could not. Two of his suspects were Trump's first foreign visitors to the White House. They came and went before Mueller was hired.
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Old 04-22-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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"Mueller said" isn't proof.
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Only when it doesn't agree with one of your theories.
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OK, I'll play along....what else is true simply because Mueller says so?
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Trump did not work with the Russians to interfere with the election......I would hope that this is true -- because that's what Mueller said.
And is that true because Mueller said was true, or is it true because it is true?
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:49 PM
 
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There is no evidence that the Russians did it because they did not.
And on what do your base your determination? Putin's word?
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Old 04-23-2019, 01:39 AM
 
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Mueller says they did, and has evidence to prove it. A Grand Jury agreed with Mueller's evidence and handed down 25 indictments on individual Russians and 3 indictments on Russian companies.

That's all in black and white in his final report. Your claim there is no evidence is a lie.

Did the Russians do it? That's up to a jury to decide, not you or me. Mueller left it up to a jury. Trying to claim they did not do it is not your decision to make, nor is it mine. It's up to a proper judge and jury, not us.

Since the chances of ever thinking Putin's hand-picked bunch will ever be extradited to stand trial here are next to zero, neither of us, nor anyone else, will ever know if the Russians are guilty or not. But the fact there is strong evidence that indicates guilt, and it certainly does exist.

Mueller actually may have tried to arrest some of their leaders, but they were all given diplomatic immunity, so he could not. Two of his suspects were Trump's first foreign visitors to the White House. They came and went before Mueller was hired.
There is no evidence they hacked into the DNC Emails. What evidence did Mueller produce that determined the DNC was hacked by Russians?
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Old 04-23-2019, 01:40 AM
 
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And on what do your base your determination? Putin's word?
What is this evidence that the DNC was hacked? Perhaps you could start by telling us what was discovered on the DNC servers to support the charges of Russian hacking.
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Old 04-23-2019, 02:09 AM
 
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What is this evidence that the DNC was hacked? Perhaps you could start by telling us what was discovered on the DNC servers to support the charges of Russian hacking.
Crazed premise. The FBI routinely sends evidence packages to average citizens? Did you personally receive forensic evidence from the WTC 9/11 ground zero site? Do you know anybody that did? Do you have access to the bullet that killed Kennedy or Nixon's Watergate tapes?

The Russkies are determined to screw with the USA's elections and that is what should be of deep concern to every American.
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:33 AM
 
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The FBI routinely sends evidence packages ....

Obviously not but the FBI was never given direct access to the DNC's network, it was investigated by third party who shared information with them.
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The Russkies are determined to screw with the USA's elections and that is what should be of deep concern to every American.
With the Democrats and the media focusing on Trump over the last 2 years what Russia did in 2016 has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
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