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View Poll Results: should bb and pellet guns be subject to background checks under federal law?
Yes. 9 10.47%
No, simply take the opportunity to outright ban weapons such as the Umarex. 2 2.33%
No, it's not a problem; do nothing. 74 86.05%
other (please explain below). 1 1.16%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-28-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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If you want the right to bear arms, be prepared to take the responsible steps: background checks, paperwork, gun locks (when necessary), etc.
Which all mean nothing to criminals but morons can't or won't accept that. Which, I guess, is to be expected.
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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Travis, BTW thanks for the link. After a bit of research, it seems this manufacturer looks like they have air guns that can store an air charge for extended periods, which solves a problem for me. Now I can have a ready anti varmint piece at the ready, to legally dispatch critters such as coyotes within city limits that want to kill my dogs.

Again thanks!

I gotta agree with others in this thread; the Hammer is really, really cool... but it ain't $800 cool.
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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I gotta agree with others in this thread; the Hammer is really, really cool... but it ain't $800 cool.
A CO2 gun will kill small game. Hechuva lot cheaper.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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A CO2 gun will kill small game. Hechuva lot cheaper.
Very small game.


This is a very high quality Swedish airgun company making top tier airguns. Whisper quiet, very stable.

The .30 model can penetrate a large coyote skull at 50 yards


.https://www.airgundepot.com/fx-airgu...ed-barrel.html


Expensive though. $2,000.
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Old 04-28-2019, 01:27 PM
 
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Very small game.


This is a very high quality Swedish airgun company making top tier airguns. Whisper quiet, very stable.

The .30 model can penetrate a large coyote skull at 50 yards


.https://www.airgundepot.com/fx-airgu...ed-barrel.html


Expensive though. $2,000.
Cheaper just to use a rifle.
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Old 04-28-2019, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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Cheaper just to use a rifle.
True. But also against the law within the city limits where I am buying. If a coyote is on your property there, and its presence threatens your livestock (or pets), you can cull it legally. But......, you cannot discharge a "firearm" within city limits to do it, unless the coyote is threatening a human. Air powered units are not defined as "firearms".

I like my dogs.
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Old 04-28-2019, 01:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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True. But also against the law within the city limits where I am buying. If a coyote is on your property there, and its presence threatens your livestock (or pets), you can cull it legally. But......, you cannot discharge a "firearm" within city limits to do it, unless the coyote is threatening a human. Air powered units are not defined as "firearms".

I like my dogs.
Compound bow?
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Old 04-28-2019, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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Compound bow?
Good option, but I am not very good with them in my experiance.
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Old 04-28-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Good option, but I am not very good with them in my experiance.
Practice practice practice I can routinely put one on a paper plate at 50 yards. Maybe a crossbow pistol? They would work good at short range. They make a reverse one that is very compact, just looks odd.
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Old 04-28-2019, 02:18 PM
 
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A week ago the local news announced that a toddler had been hit in the back of the head with a pellet gun. The child was hospitalized and is still in a coma. About a week later the police found that a young lad was shooting a pellet gun at will. One of the pellets struck the toddler.

The real problem is not the pellet or bb gun. The problem is in parents who fail to provide proper parenting. Many of today's parents give into the slightest whimpering of their child's wishes. Rather than getting the child training first they simply purchased the gun, hand it to their child, and don't have the slightest notion that this weapon can cause severe injury.

BTW, pellet guns can kill small animals but in most cases these weapons only injure the animal leaving it helpless and in pain to die.
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