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Old 05-08-2019, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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And by the way, I am not saying that the news should be abandoned forever.

Just until such time there is no longer this toxic discourse and things are somewhat back to normal.




To a point, I get what you are saying, but we have to ask ourselves WHY we are seeing this heightened level of negative reporting about THIS PARTICULAR President. I can not ever remember any President being so despised and reported on by so many news people, and the blame falls all on one man...…….Donald J Trump himself.

If he behaved and spoke like a rational, sane, normal human being, he would not be seeing 1/100th of the things people are discussing about his Presidency. IF he got up every day and did actual work, acted ethically, didn't try to obstruct every request and subpoena, his life, and ours, would be so much less stressful. But he has to be an ass, and that is going to be reported on.

All of this falls right on his shoulders.
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Old 05-08-2019, 01:40 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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I strongly suggest that people get their real news straight from the horse's mouth only and not from any middle man, interpreter or source.

So, for example, if you want to know Trump's or Pelosi's views on something, ONLY listen directly to what they are saying.

Only read their own words or listen to their speeches on their web site.

Do not listen to anything that is reported or interpreted about what they are saying from a third source.

In other words, avoid "news" sources, channels or publications at all costs.
So you're saying accept without the benefit of verification or context whatever words fall out of someone's mouth, theirs and theirs alone? OK

(Although I do kind of like the idea of Sarah Huckleberry getting canned if we followed your advise)
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Old 05-08-2019, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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I can't decide of the premise of this thread is hilarious or pathetic.
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The news anchors and reporters are all corrupt and in it for money and power. There is zero honesty left.
Dang! I wish I'd have known they're was money and power to be had by working in the news business. When I was a working journalist, I had neither. Nor did any other working journalist I knew, except maybe the one sports anchor who got lucky every weekend at his favorite bar, if you call that power.

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It is not possible for most people to pick and choose the real information and decide for themselves anymore.
It most certainly is. One merely must be capable of critical thinking.

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I am talking about the national and big news sources.
You said "all".

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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
And by the way, I am not saying that the news should be abandoned forever.
That's not what you said in your OP.

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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
I strongly suggest that people get their real news straight from the horse's mouth only and not from any middle man, interpreter or source.

So, for example, if you want to know Trump's or Pelosi's views on something, ONLY listen directly to what they are saying..
If you want to hear what they're saying directly, you must be in the room with them. Otherwise, you're relying on a middleman to shoot the video or record the audio. You then also must rely on over or more editors to transfer the video to the medium in which the video will be viewed. Even if a video goes straight to YouTube without editing, how can you trust the camera operator?

With the printed weird, you're relying on a third party to write down what the person said and translate to the page. Even the most meticulous reporter may leave out a word or two quite by accident in a direct quote.

Nope, if you want to hear what Donald Trump says without a third party providing the information for you, you'll have to shadow him. Good luck with that.
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Old 05-08-2019, 01:50 PM
 
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Sorry, I enjoy hearing like minded people telling it like it is. You may want biased news, like FOX, but some of us agree with most of the information on the other stations. You just have to be intelligent enough to sift through what you hear and sort out the truth.
it doesn't sound like you are
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Old 05-08-2019, 01:52 PM
 
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And by the way, I am not saying that the news should be abandoned forever.

Just until such time there is no longer this toxic discourse and things are somewhat back to normal.
That won't happen until after the divorce
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:07 PM
 
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all news has always been propaganda, you just woke up to it
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:08 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Dang! I wish I'd have known they're was money and power to be had by working in the news business.
You better bet there is.

Don Lemon's net worth is 10 million dollars.

Chris Wallace's net worth is 12 million dollars.

Rachel Maddow's net worth is 20 million dollars.

Jeff Zucker's net worth is 40 million dollars.

Sean Hannity's net worth is 80 million dollars.

And these are almost certainly conservative estimates. These people have become rich beyond their wildest dreams in the news business spewing propaganda and nonsense.

Their only goal is money and power. Nothing else. That is why they have become so corrupt and Orwellian.

Every last one of them.

Please open your eyes.
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:15 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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If you want to hear what they're saying directly, you must be in the room with them.
No.

Audio, video and writing from them is direct from the horse's mouth.

Read their personal blog if they have one.

There is no middle man and there is no need to be in the room with them.
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:19 PM
 
Location: southern california
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I respectfully disagree spin doctors talk a lot they give off information useful unintentionally
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:19 PM
 
Location: USA
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all news has always been propaganda, you just woke up to it
Correct.
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