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Old 06-30-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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why did colleges get so expensive and who do you blame?
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:37 PM
 
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Ah - you answered your own question!

Worker productivity (what you MAKE for others) has tripled. Wages have stayed the same. Yet some people - hopefully not you - keep pushing for low wages.

I have laid out many a time how I made the equiv. of $26 an hour in 1975 working in the low-wage area of rural TN as a site laborer. Today the same job pays 1/2 that much.

You tell us.....
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:42 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Hmm, the premise is bull****. I was one of those 1970s minimum wage workers going to a state school and I couldn't cover the cost working full time.

Minimum wage in 1973 was $1.60/hour, tuition and fees was $3700. Do the math.
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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why did colleges get so expensive and who do you blame?
Republicans cut funding to higher education, so colleges had to raise tuition to make up for it.
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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In California the blame goes to Ronald Raygun. And proposition 13. The cost of higher education was largely funded by the state but with tax cutting fervor that changed to make students shoulder more responsibility.

I think that students should not go into debt to get a college education, but I also think students who come from families with money should pay more tuition.
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Hmm, the premise is bull****. I was one of those 1970s minimum wage workers going to a state school and I couldn't cover the cost working full time.

Minimum wage in 1973 was $1.60/hour, tuition and fees was $3700. Do the math.
Well by March of 1974 you were making $2.00 an hour. You were in fat city then.
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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why did colleges get so expensive and who do you blame?

The better question would be, why aren't college students marching on their respective campuses, and carrying placards about that?
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Old 06-30-2019, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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Hmm, the premise is bull****. I was one of those 1970s minimum wage workers going to a state school and I couldn't cover the cost working full time.

Minimum wage in 1973 was $1.60/hour, tuition and fees was $3700. Do the math.
Do you have some facts to back up your $3,700.00. I did a quick Google and in 1970 it was like $1,400.00 which included tuition, room and board, plus fees per year.
The real reason for the increase is inflated administration, land and buildings, tenure, professors that are on full pay but only teach part time, and over inflated sports programs. Not to say the stupid federal loan programs which encourage run away inflation on tuition and fees.
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Old 06-30-2019, 06:03 PM
 
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Hmm, the premise is bull****. I was one of those 1970s minimum wage workers going to a state school and I couldn't cover the cost working full time.

Minimum wage in 1973 was $1.60/hour, tuition and fees was $3700. Do the math.
I didn't go to college so can't comment on the costs...but I made $3.20 an hour at day labor (manpower) in TN in 1974 and $5 an hour as a beginning framer on a construction crew (I didn't have any skill other than carrying 2x4's and nailing a few together).

That's about $16 and $26 today.......making it fair to say that the wages for many younger people today are lower in relation.

Also, as mentioned, people like Reagan "reformed" the college system...in CA. it used to be free college for most all. No more.

"Shortly after being elected governor of California in 1966, Ronald Reagan proposed a tuition, a 10% cut from state funding and the firing of UC President Clark Kerr, who stood by students who were protesting rising costs"

Once he got to the White House he did even more....much more. Then his followers (trickle down) destroyed wages, outsourced jobs and made for-profit colleges into a big thing.

Trump is continuing the efforts.
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Old 06-30-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Do you have some facts to back up your $3,700.00. I did a quick Google and in 1970 it was like $1,400.00 which included tuition, room and board, plus fees per year.
The real reason for the increase is inflated administration, land and buildings, tenure, professors that are on full pay but only teach part time, and over inflated sports programs. Not to say the stupid federal loan programs which encourage run away inflation on tuition and fees.
Other than I know what I paid? No.
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