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Old 07-07-2019, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Old 07-07-2019, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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I won't make a big deal out of it if someone pulls my chair out for me. I mean, it's nice, it just... isn't necessary. It's silly imo. You, unsurprisingly, equate me questioning why it's so respectful and necessary with me being angry about it and being an unhappy person. Maybe don't do that.
Oh, don't. Don't lower yourself by responding to their ridiculous "argument" that "feminists" have a problem with men pulling a chair out for them.

What is this, 1975? Are Archie Bunker and George Jefferson going to chime in next?
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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It's Missing White Woman Syndrome.

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Missing white woman syndrome is a phenomenon noted by social scientists[1][2][3] and media commentators of the extensive media coverage, especially in television,[4] of missing person cases involving young, white, upper-middle-class women or girls. The phenomenon is defined as the Western media's undue focus on upper-middle-class white women who disappear, with the disproportionate degree of coverage they receive being compared to cases of missing women of color, women of lower social classes and missing men or boys.[5][6] Although the term was coined to describe disproportionate coverage of missing person cases, it is sometimes used to describe similar disparities in news coverage of other violent crimes. Instances have been cited in the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom and South Africa.[7]

Missing white woman syndrome has led to a number of right-wing tough on crime measures that were named for white women who disappeared and were subsequently found harmed.[9][10] In addition to race and class, factors such as supposed attractiveness, body size and youthfulness function as are seen as unfair criteria in the determination of newsworthiness in coverage of missing women.[11] Also noteworthy was that news coverage of missing black women was more likely to focus on the victim's problems, such as abusive boyfriends or a troubled past, while coverage of white women tends to focus on their roles as mothers or daughters.[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missin...woman_syndrome
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Old 07-08-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I have honestly never given it a second thought before, and definitely have never thought of it in the terms the OP has. But, I have to concede that the OP is right. It is seperating the genders and equating women to children, as opposed equating them to the “real” autonomous adults, males. It is an interesting postulation.

I wouldn't expect you or anyone else to give it a second thought.

Males, and young males in particular, have been 100% disposable throughout human history, so not giving the disparate protections afforded females a second thought is probably coded into our DNA.
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Old 07-08-2019, 12:54 PM
 
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Future headline from the NY Times:

"World to End Tomorrow; Women and Children Hardest Hit."




































Punchline submitted in lieu of reciting the whole the whole joke.
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Old 07-08-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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We live in a patriarchal society that has primarily had men in power making major decisions about war and other government and political issues,
Many more women vote than men. If them men are in power it's because the women put them there.



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In 1964, 67% of women and 71.9% of men voted.
That's 39.2 million women and 37.5 million men - a difference of 1.7 million.


In 1996, 55.5% of women and 52.8% of men voted.
That's 56.1 million women and 48.9 million men - a difference of 7.2 million.


In 2000, 56.2% of women and 53.1% of men voted.That's 59.3 million women and 51.5 million men - a difference of 7.8 million.


In 2004, 60.1% of women and 56.3% of men voted.That's 67.3 million women and 58.5 million men - a difference of 8.8 million.
https://www.thoughtco.com/more-likel...or-men-3534271
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:44 PM
 
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Many more women vote than men. If them men are in power it's because the women put them there.




https://www.thoughtco.com/more-likel...or-men-3534271
How many women run? Now you'll say "well they can run." But see this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/u...ng-to-run.html Years of inequality and stereotypes don't magically go away, dismantling these ideas takes time.

The fact that in more recent times, more women vote than men doesn't change the fact that we live in a patriarchal society that has historically been run by men, and largely still is.
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:17 AM
 
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How many women run? Now you'll say "well they can run." But see this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/u...ng-to-run.html Years of inequality and stereotypes don't magically go away, dismantling these ideas takes time.

The fact that in more recent times, more women vote than men doesn't change the fact that we live in a patriarchal society that has historically been run by men, and largely still is.
The men voted in by women get voted in by pandering to women's issues. That means the women are in charge. That's why in modern democratic countries men are disadvantaged. I posted about it months ago.





https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0103152911.htm


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New measure of equality reveals a fuller picture of male well-being

Measurement tool acknowledges the challenges men face that researchers say have been underestimated in some countries




....our new measure indicated that men are, on average, more disadvantaged than women in 91 countries compared with a relative disadvantage for women in 43 countries. We sought to correct the bias toward women's issues in existing measures and at the same time develop a simple measure that is useful in any country in the world, regardless of their level of economic development."
Using the BIGI measure, the researchers found the most developed countries in the world come closest to achieving gender equality, albeit with a slight advantage for women.
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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If a woman becomes pregnant she is sexually inactive for almost a year, whereas a man can impregnate multiple women a day. Moreover women experience menopause while there is no male equivalent. This means the effective sexual population of men vastly exceeds the effective sexual population of women. Men are quite simply more expendable from a population standpoint.

Older women are also more valued as a social convention, but that is much weaker than the priority placed on child-bearing women and children.
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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How many women run? Now you'll say "well they can run." But see this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/u...ng-to-run.html Years of inequality and stereotypes don't magically go away, dismantling these ideas takes time.

The fact that in more recent times, more women vote than men doesn't change the fact that we live in a patriarchal society that has historically been run by men, and largely still is.
Most women don't want to be politicians. It has nothing to do with "equality." They simply don't want to do it. Or are you for forced quotas?

Explain how the patriarchal society has removed any rights from women. It's the OPPOSITE. Women today can do anything a man does. Anything. In fact this "patriarchal" society has done nothing except move women's rights FORWARD.

Please list all the rights that women have lost over the last 200 years of the USA's "patriarchal" society.
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