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except before hand, hospitals got no profit from those people as they never paid at all. So your argument doesnt really work unless you assume higher volume, which didnt happen either.
True and now they now they made it worse by taking away the penalty in the ACA so now they get a free ride. This closure had nothing to do with the ACA.
How any hospital can go "broke" when they charge $30 for an aspirin and many thousands of dollars for any simple procedure, is beyond me. Yes, they may have some indigents, but also enough paying customers to cover that expense.
I suspect poor management personally.
Because of employees cost ... That $30 aspirin PARTLY paid for your 24 hour nurse... medical supplies are 10X normal cost because that's what vendor sales do.... Medicare doesn't pay $30 for that aspirin either... Most hospitals operate on 1% to 3% profit... Even with $30 aspirin... The point of ACA was to make PATIENTS not use medical services that's why your premiums AND deductible went up... Guess what, a lot of people don't pay their deductible and a hospital will have to close if the state won't help... Thanks ACA....
Guess what? Universal healthcare in Canada didn't wipe out "half the hospitals".
In fact, once all things are considered, Canada spends 1/3 less as a percentage of GDP than the USA does. And gets better results.
Canadians live longer. In the end, that is the only health outcome that matters.
1. It is doubtful that the Canadian system reimburses on par with "medicare rates". If they did, their system would have been bankrupted long ago. This is a simple fact that liberals do not understand, which is really crazy. You obviously do not work in healthcare, thus know very little about it. Ask any administrator how their hospital would do on straight medicare or Medicaid reimbursement (without some sweetheart deal like rural pass through rates).
2. Canada has a far different demographic of patients. We have a far greater number of people engaging in poor health choices.
3. Canada has the US as a neighbor. The US allows wealthier Canadians who want quicker, high quality health care to cross the border. Take away the US and their system would have trouble.
4. The US pays higher drug costs than Canada. The US bears the burden of much of the R&D costs for the pharm industry.
Because of employees cost ... That $30 aspirin PARTLY paid for your 24 hour nurse... medical supplies are 10X normal cost because that's what vendor sales do.... Medicare doesn't pay $30 for that aspirin either... Most hospitals operate on 1% to 3% profit... Even with $30 aspirin... The point of ACA was to make PATIENTS not use medical services that's why your premiums AND deductible went up... Guess what, a lot of people don't pay their deductible and a hospital will have to close if the state won't help... Thanks ACA....
That is correct. Most hospitals are at 1%, with the very well run organizations at 5%. Libs just cannot seem to get it through their heads that this is true and it does not take much to upset the apple cart. Did you wonder why Mayo said it stratifies patients by payer class? If they did not, they would be broke today.
Now if you bankrupt half of the hospitals and physician practices, did you "help" the situation or create a catastrophic healthcare crisis? Keep in mind that after you close the doors of hospitals and physicians retire, it is hard to bring them back and the system is not set up to even replace its current losses.
Liberals are complete idiots with regard to the economics of healthcare.
EMTALA only guarantees emergency treatment in a qualified ER, which is a small part of all medical treatments.
I’m guessing you haven’t been to an emergency room in years? Way too many people are using the ER as a way to get free treatment. You have a real emergency it could take hours to get help. This is a massive problem that needs to be dealt with!
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Liberals are complete idiots with regard to the economics of healthcare.
Because they use emotion, not reality to assess situations. Hospitals, like other BUSINESSES are their to make a profit, or they wouldn't have been created. That's how society works. You get a service, you PAY for it. You BUY insurance YOU pay for to mitigate the risk of huge expenses.
Without scammers, and ILLEGAL ALIENS (prior to Obamacare at least) the system could afford to take care of the poor and people that couldn't pay. Now that is changing due to overloads created by these types.
Hospital are required to treat people without insurance. That’s more EMTALA than ACA. The real problem is that the government is putting mandates on hospitals without properly reimbursing them.
Suburban Philly Health Systems are expanding. One example is Mainline Health Systems. They don't have as much pressure from the free loaders as the Inner City hospitals do.
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