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Not well, the legally obtained guns were bought in Indiana and taken to Chicago.
You do know that as its become easier to own a handgun in Chicago via the United States Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, the homicide rate in Chicago has actually decreased
The Second Amendment is not about enabling suicide.
It's about the citizens of the United States being able to protect themselves from an oppressive government.
Sure, just so many examples of people defending themselves against that oppressive government, incidents like this are just collateral damage while we store our guns waiting for the revolution. Maybe Texas needs to pass even more lenient laws to protect their citizens.
You do know that as its become easier to own a handgun in Chicago via the United States Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, the homicide rate in Chicago has actually decreased
The homicide rate in Chicago began decreasing long before that Court of Appeals ruling.
Sure, just so many examples of people defending themselves against that oppressive government, incidents like this are just collateral damage while we store our guns waiting for the revolution. Maybe Texas needs to pass even more lenient laws to protect their citizens.
OR.....it makes those who might want to have an oppressive government think twice about doing such. There is that side of the equation, too!
The homicide rate in Chicago began decreasing long before that Court of Appeals ruling.
But according to the logic of the left, more guns equal more gun violence and more gun. So I'd expect to see that trend reversed when it became easier to own a firearm based on the Court of Appeals ruling. That hasn't happened, which weakens the argument on the other side. To boot, as its become easier to own a gun in the country as a whole over the last several decades, the violent crime rate and murder rate has continued to decrease.
Scroll down to the middle under murder and look at the far right column. Texas: 3.2. Illinois: 2.8. Texas still higher in gun murder rates.
It's also a list that someone put together, with an agenda. Actual straight numbers tell the real story. Biased "gun death" numbers are nonsense hoplophobia and I even provided you with the actual CDC numbers for those.
This isnt the thread to argue it in, but the total death rate in Illinois eclipses Texas' while having more strict gun regs.
You do know that as its become easier to own a handgun in Chicago via the United States Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, the homicide rate in Chicago has actually decreased
Yes an of course you want to believe that is the case but I doubt you can woute a study that convincingly states there is correlation.
Yes an of course you want to believe that is the case but I doubt you can woute a study that convincingly states there is correlation.
I don't need to argue causation/correlation to make my point. Ultimately, the left said that gun crime and homicide would skyrocket if we liberalized gun laws. That cities would turn into the "Wild Wild West." But the statistics show that this has not come to pass, either in Chicago or in the country at large as its become easier to lawfully own and carry firearms on your person.
I am in area now. One of the scariest moments of my life.
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