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Old 09-17-2019, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I will tell you because I already now. We have too much food.

Soy bean and grain production is industrialized not to feed people, but to feed cattle and produce a massive surplus in meat for people to eat every day.

Chocolate and sugary foods is mass produced. Mount Dew is worse than most drugs and yet its legal.

Unsaturated fat is applied to everything, portions are too big, and there is a massive advertisement industry to back it up. There is too much money to be made in the food business and there is to much money to be made in make people more sedentary.

Our military cannot even find new recruits.

Whats the answer? Lower food supplies by cutting down on the supply chain. Break up big corporations that monitor them, and leave grocery stores half empty.

That will force farmers to rely on local markets for their goods and adjust production to fit those needs. It means you can't walk in a grocery story anywhere in the country and find cheese from all over the world or fully stocked shelves. It means companies can't focus on unhealthy recipes because they wouldn't have access to the production methods, labor, or resources needed.

I don't drink soda, or anything besides water. I don't drink Coffee (which is harvested from poor southern countries). I can't believe other people do.

It is so easy to avoid the temptation when the option is not on the table. And guess what, once you stop having it, you no longer desire it. I don't have any temptation when I see table salt or a bottle of soda/fruit juice/alcohol/coffee. None.

And the answer is not to have a class of people splurge on expensive diets and gym memberships. Its about how we work, interact, and live. Its about how corporate America has modeled our consumption habit and how the media and the government enforce it.

Also mountain Dew executives need to be arrested, that drink is a hundred times worse than coke and pepsi. Doritos/Papa Johns, etc. also need to be jailed.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:09 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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So much for personal responsibility, eh?


Last time I checked, no one was forcing me to order a pizza or drink a soda....
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:12 AM
 
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I will tell you because I already now. We have too much food.

Soy bean and grain production is industrialized not to feed people, but to feed cattle and produce a massive surplus in meat for people to eat every day.

Chocolate and sugary foods is mass produced. Mount Dew is worse than most drugs and yet its legal.

Unsaturated fat is applied to everything, portions are too big, and there is a massive advertisement industry to back it up. There is too much money to be made in the food business and there is to much money to be made in make people more sedentary.

Our military cannot even find new recruits.

Whats the answer? Lower food supplies by cutting down on the supply chain. Break up big corporations that monitor them, and leave grocery stores half empty.

That will force farmers to rely on local markets for their goods and adjust production to fit those needs. It means you can't walk in a grocery story anywhere in the country and find cheese from all over the world or fully stocked shelves. It means companies can't focus on unhealthy recipes because they wouldn't have access to the production methods, labor, or resources needed.

I don't drink soda, or anything besides water. I don't drink Coffee (which is harvested from poor southern countries). I can't believe other people do.

It is so easy to avoid the temptation when the option is not on the table. And guess what, once you stop having it, you no longer desire it. I don't have any temptation when I see table salt or a bottle of soda/fruit juice/alcohol/coffee. None.

And the answer is not to have a class of people splurge on expensive diets and gym memberships. Its about how we work, interact, and live. Its about how corporate America has modeled our consumption habit and how the media and the government enforce it.

Also mountain Dew executives need to be arrested, that drink is a hundred times worse than coke and pepsi. Doritos/Papa Johns, etc. also need to be jailed.
Too much and the cost is too low. I know it isn't a popular argument to argue that food should cost more - it seems to go against everything we think we should think, but I indeed think food should be more expensive. It is currently kept artificially low by the collusion of big business and big government in the form of crony capitalism, and that should end, allowing the free-market of craft and local foods to continue to make a comeback.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Seems a little extreme, but maybe we can fine tune your approach. I like it!
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Removing Mountain Dew, Doritos and Papa John's kills three of the major food groups in the Mississippi Food Pyramid!
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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So stop buying coffee to make the people in those "poor southern countries" even poorer? That industry may provide the only jobs in those countries. Coffee won't make you fat unless you add loads of sweeteners to it. I drink mine black, but have to laugh at the women at work who bring in 2,000 calorie Starbucks Lattes and say its just a "coffee".

I do believe we are bombarded by an unreasonable amount of fast food, and chain restaurant advertising showing huge portions of unhealthy, high sodium, high fat, high calorie food as "normal" to eat. However, we have a free market and people choose to buy these foods and eat them in large quantities as part of their regular diet. I don't think more government regulation or restriction is required, but more nutrition education in school, and societal shift to better diets and exercise.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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So much for personal responsibility, eh?

Last time I checked, no one was forcing me to order a pizza or drink a soda....
People are no more or less responsible than they were 30 years ago.

Yet they are much fatter.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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I will tell you because I already now. We have too much food.

Soy bean and grain production is industrialized not to feed people, but to feed cattle and produce a massive surplus in meat for people to eat every day.

Chocolate and sugary foods is mass produced. Mount Dew is worse than most drugs and yet its legal.

Unsaturated fat is applied to everything, portions are too big, and there is a massive advertisement industry to back it up. There is too much money to be made in the food business and there is to much money to be made in make people more sedentary.

Our military cannot even find new recruits.

Whats the answer? Lower food supplies by cutting down on the supply chain. Break up big corporations that monitor them, and leave grocery stores half empty.

That will force farmers to rely on local markets for their goods and adjust production to fit those needs. It means you can't walk in a grocery story anywhere in the country and find cheese from all over the world or fully stocked shelves. It means companies can't focus on unhealthy recipes because they wouldn't have access to the production methods, labor, or resources needed.

I don't drink soda, or anything besides water. I don't drink Coffee (which is harvested from poor southern countries). I can't believe other people do.

It is so easy to avoid the temptation when the option is not on the table. And guess what, once you stop having it, you no longer desire it. I don't have any temptation when I see table salt or a bottle of soda/fruit juice/alcohol/coffee. None.

And the answer is not to have a class of people splurge on expensive diets and gym memberships. Its about how we work, interact, and live. Its about how corporate America has modeled our consumption habit and how the media and the government enforce it.

Also mountain Dew executives need to be arrested, that drink is a hundred times worse than coke and pepsi. Doritos/Papa Johns, etc. also need to be jailed.
Lol, so because some people have zero self control, the rest of us suffer? No thanks.

We already govern too many areas to cater to the lowest common denominator. I say just let these people eat themselves to death and take away the subsidized health care where its obviously self inflicted.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Lol, so because some people have zero self control, the rest of us suffer? No thanks.
People have no more or less self control than they did 30 years ago.

And yet they are much fatter.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:17 AM
 
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Pretty savage to send papa john to jail all because of the fatties out there..

Did he get your order wrong bro?

In all seriousness, even though I’m a Republican, I would be in favor of putting Medicare/Medicaid taxes on unhealthy food. Personally, it would probably motivate me to eat healthier.
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