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Old 09-17-2019, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I pay much less for a very nice apartment with everything included then people my age pay to send one child for daycare.

Most people in the cohort called millennials are in their mid and late 20s and a vast majority of that generation will become mothers in the next decade if not already, many will have their 2nd or 3rd child also.

It's obvious though that many times all that education is going to just taxes and daycare. Would be interesting to see what the net income pays after daycare for two after taxes. I wouldn't be surprised if they are paying to work.

It's obvious that two-parents working 40+ hours is just causing lots of stress just so someone else can raise the children.

Not to mention, the amount of viruses must be incredible also. Pack dozens into a very small space and viruses will spread quickly. I notice that to make things easy on parents a child can go to daycare if they done with vomiting for 25 hours, when norovirus is present for much longer.

Not only that these huge daycare centers are just incubators of viruses and illnesses.

Even in Nebraska, the government university day-care charges $295 a week and that is with a low minimum wage.

In areas with higher minimum wages like Washington DC the average is over $400 a week.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/new...es/2266422001/

https://dcist.com/story/18/08/08/post-111/

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/...-so-expensive/

I couldn't find information for a UNO daycare center, but another university provides government day-care and it's $295 a week in a state with one of the lowest cost of living and lowest minimum wages although usually center-based daycare workers supposedly make in most cases a premium over the state minimum wage because it is a difficult job.

https://childcare.unl.edu/media/Chil...19%20Rates.pdf

https://childcare.unl.edu/Parent%20Manual%202017.pdf

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Old 09-17-2019, 10:55 AM
 
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"I’m going to go to work just to pay for someone else to raise my kids."

So they made a choice, there are consequences. Whats the problem?
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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Oh well....
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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"I’m going to go to work just to pay for someone else to raise my kids."

So they made a choice, there are consequences. Whats the problem?
Its not 1952 anymore.
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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Its not 1952 anymore.
Oh, so because its 2019 people can be irresponsible? Anyone who doesn't know ONE kid is expensive shouldn't have one, let alone 3.
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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"I’m going to go to work just to pay for someone else to raise my kids."

So they made a choice, there are consequences. Whats the problem?
The problem is that many think that all these expenses should be paid for with free government daycare schemes.

They want to make it much more expensive then it already is and raise taxes so that childless people like myself, retirees and people just getting into the workforce pay the bill for something that should be 100% paid for by the parents.

I don't believe there should government schools at all, but over 90% is typically funded by state and local taxpayers and if the people of a certain area want to pay a large amount of their income for schools and not saving much for retirement or taking nice vacations then their choice.

I spent the summer in Nebraska, but am moving to Arizona again soon by winter. Arizona has government schools but they spend very little on them compared to a majority of states but the property tax bills on decent homes in many areas are less than a $1,000 a year, they have very low income taxes.
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:06 AM
 
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"I’m going to go to work just to pay for someone else to raise my kids."

So they made a choice, there are consequences. Whats the problem?
Exactly.
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Its not 1952 anymore.

We know, people back then had this thing called.....


Spoiler
.....responsibility.....
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Oh, so because its 2019 people can be irresponsible? Anyone who doesn't know ONE kid is expensive shouldn't have one, let alone 3.
Not that people can be irresponsible. That times changed and its a-lot harder to get by these days.
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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I pay much less for a very nice apartment with everything included then people my age pay to send one child for daycare.

Most people in the cohort called millennials are in their late 20s and a vast majority of that generation will become mothers in the next decade if not already, many will have their 2nd or 3rd child also.

It's obvious though that many times all that education is going to just taxes and daycare. Would be interesting to see what the net income pays after daycare for two after taxes. I wouldn't be surprised if they are paying to work.

It's obvious that two-parents working 40+ hours is just causing lots of stress just so someone else can raise the children.

Not to mention, the amount of viruses must be incredible also. Pack dozens into a very small space and viruses will spread quickly. I notice that to make things easy on parents a child can go to daycare if they done with vomiting for 25 hours, when norovirus is present for much longer.

Not only that these huge daycare centers are just incubators of viruses and illnesses. For instance they usually have

Even in Nebraska, the government university day-care charges $295 a week and that is with a low minimum wage.

In areas with higher minimum wages like Washington DC the average is over $400 a week.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/new...es/2266422001/

https://dcist.com/story/18/08/08/post-111/

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/...-so-expensive/

I couldn't find information for a UNO daycare center, but another university provides government day-care and it's $295 a week in a state with one of the lowest cost of living and lowest minimum wages although usually center-based daycare workers supposedly make in most cases a premium over the state minimum wage because it is a difficult job.

https://childcare.unl.edu/media/Chil...19%20Rates.pdf

https://childcare.unl.edu/Parent%20Manual%202017.pdf
The solution is easy.

Don’t breed.
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