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Old 10-15-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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This is breaking today via Judicial Watch. Let's see how outraged leftwing journalists are.


Judicial Watch has obtained information indicating Yovanovitch may have violated laws and government regulations by ordering subordinates to target certain U.S. persons using State Department resources. Yovanovitch reportedly ordered monitoring keyed to the following search terms: Biden, Giuliani, Soros and Yovanovitch...

...Yovanovitch reportedly created a list of individuals who were to be monitored via social media and other means. Ukraine embassy staff made the request to the Washington D.C. headquarters office of the department’s Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs. ..


Jack Posobiec
Donald Trump Jr.
Laura Ingraham
Sean Hannity
Michael McFaul (Obama’s ambassador to Russia)
Dan Bongino
Ryan Saavedra
Rudy Giuliani
Sebastian Gorka
John Solomon
Lou Dobbs
Pamella Geller
Sara Carter



https://www.judicialwatch.org/corrup...rump-allies-2/
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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"Yovanovitch reportedly created a list of individuals" ... reported by whom? Who is making this allegation? the article does not say. It could be an invention of the person who sold this article to Judicial Watch.

A respectable journalist would indicate "who" is making the allegation, a name is not necessary but the source should be described ... an employee of State? ... who among us would even know that such a list actually existed? ... no such information is offered.

Anyone can make an FOIA request for even the most nonsensical thing, will this author follow up with another article when the State Department sends back a response that says "there is nothing to give you" ? Will the author offer a correction? ... no, they won't.

This article looks like a disinformation plant. The idea here is to sow doubts in people's minds, it doesn't have to be factual and it doesn't have to be followed up, all that is necessary to accomplish it's goals is to make an unfounded allegation.
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This is breaking today via Judicial Watch. Let's see how outraged leftwing journalists are.


Judicial Watch has obtained information indicating Yovanovitch may have violated laws and government regulations by ordering subordinates to target certain U.S. persons using State Department resources. Yovanovitch reportedly ordered monitoring keyed to the following search terms: Biden, Giuliani, Soros and Yovanovitch...

...Yovanovitch reportedly created a list of individuals who were to be monitored via social media and other means. Ukraine embassy staff made the request to the Washington D.C. headquarters office of the department’s Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs. ..


Jack Posobiec
Donald Trump Jr.
Laura Ingraham
Sean Hannity
Michael McFaul (Obama’s ambassador to Russia)
Dan Bongino
Ryan Saavedra
Rudy Giuliani
Sebastian Gorka
John Solomon
Lou Dobbs
Pamella Geller
Sara Carter



https://www.judicialwatch.org/corrup...rump-allies-2/
They left off Alex Jones and Roger Stone
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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Funny to watch Trumpers castigate MSM as being fake news, and then quote articles from extreme right-wing conspiracy sites.
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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Thread title is wrong and misleading.

Actual quote from Judicial Watch is "JW INVESTIGATES IF OUSTED UKRAINE AMBASSADOR ORDERED STATE DEPT. TO MONITOR JOURNALISTS" My emphasis on the "if."

At this point we have no information that she actually ordered any monitoring.
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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She's a corrupt Obama left over.
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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Thread title is wrong and misleading.

Actual quote from Judicial Watch is "JW INVESTIGATES IF OUSTED UKRAINE AMBASSADOR ORDERED STATE DEPT. TO MONITOR JOURNALISTS" My emphasis on the "if."

At this point we have no information that she actually ordered any monitoring.
Thread title being a lie is the point.

Works like this:

Post lie in thread title > people respond to refute lie > thread stays at top of page > low info people are incapable of reading more than headline > low info people move on to parrot lie all over other threads. Now you have a self reinforcing propaganda loop.
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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She's a corrupt Obama left over.
So was the #2 guy over there at the embassy. Taylor.
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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According to insiders Giuliani is spreading documents and arguments out. That's why the source is noted like it is in the OP article. Trump just threw the guy under the bus so he is going to plan B, problem is no one REALLY knows when Giuliani is telling the truth.

Last edited by Daryl_G; 10-15-2019 at 12:35 PM..
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Old 10-15-2019, 12:24 PM
 
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She's a corrupt Obama left over.
She has worked for four Republican administrations and two Democratic ones. No one knows how she has voted.

Her first two appointments as ambassador were under Republican presidents.

Career civil servants know how to do their jobs in a non-partisan manner, it is a point of pride for these professionals.

As to whether she is corrupt or not, I doubt it. She actually has a reputation for integrity and fighting corruption, while you have only wishful thinking, which is influenced by a partisan need to discredit and build a false narrative about her.
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