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Joe Biden, the guy who said that he didn't want his kids growing up in a "racial jungle" and said that black people aren't black if they are considering voting for someone else was a big advocate of tougher crime laws in 1994 and he argued that locking up people for longer periods of time would lower the violent crime rate.
Was Biden correct that the aggressive 1994 crime bill that he passionately argued for was responsible for dropping violent crime like murder in the US by taking the "thugs" off the street?
Quite frankly, I don't have a huge problem with the crime bill, even if I think generally that we should decriminalize more things. But it was appropriate for the times, in my view. I only bring it up and attack Biden and Democrats for it as this is exactly the kind of bill that they claim represents "systemic racism" So I am just giving them a taste of their own medicine by attacking them for their hypocritical support of a man that voted for such a bill.
Quite frankly, I don't have a huge problem with the crime bill, even if I think generally that we should decriminalize more things. But it was appropriate for the times, in my view. I only bring it up and attack Biden and Democrats for it as this is exactly the kind of bill that they claim represents "systemic racism" So I am just giving them a taste of their own medicine by attacking them for their hypocritical support of a man that voted for such a bill.
Personally I also don't like locking up someone for let's say having personal use drugs on them.
With that said, yes if you look at Biden's support for the 1994 crime bill, Democrats would be saying that his comments were full of dog whistles had he been a Republican. It would be example #1 of why Trump was a racist if it was Trump in 1994 making those comments.
Combined with the even more important Broken Windows NYPD policy, it drove crime down, and he should proudly be reminding folks of that, and supporting it today.
Personally I also don't like locking up someone for let's say having personal use drugs on them.
With that said, yes if you look at Biden's support for the 1994 crime bill, Democrats would be saying that his comments were full of dog whistles had he been a Republican. It would be example #1 of why Trump was a racist if it was Trump in 1994 making those comments.
1994 was a long time ago, but what's more important is that Biden has evolved in his thinking, so we are voting for or against Biden today.
It's only relevant to look at a politician's long-ago past if they have not acknowledged their wrongs, and made changes. if they are still hunkered down with the same policies, then it's relevant. For instance, if a hypothetical politician made his millions by using racist policies to keep blacks from renting his properties, and he had changed, that would be one thing, but if that same person was still proud to be supported by KKK agitators, still stoked racial tensions, still embraced and retweeted conspiracy theories then, their past would still be relevant, because there would be no evidence that the pattern had been broken. Hypothetically, of course.
BTW, what was the final vote on Biden's 1994 crime bill? They way you position it, it sounds like it must have passed on strictly party lines. Did any R's support it?
Joe Biden, the guy who said that he didn't want his kids growing up in a "racial jungle" and said that black people aren't black if they are considering voting for someone else was a big advocate of tougher crime laws in 1994 and he argued that locking up people for longer periods of time would lower the violent crime rate.
Since the 1994 crime bill (this is the same bill that Hillary boasted would get "super predators" off the streets) the murder rate has nearly fallen in half
Locking thugs up for decades during their violent decades did reduce crime.
1994 was a long time ago, but what's more important is that Biden has evolved in his thinking, so we are voting for or against Biden today.
It's only relevant to look at a politician's long-ago past if they have not acknowledged their wrongs, and made changes. if they are still hunkered down with the same policies, then it's relevant. For instance, if a hypothetical politician made his millions by using racist policies to keep blacks from renting his properties, and he had changed, that would be one thing, but if that same person was still proud to be supported by KKK agitators, still stoked racial tensions, still embraced and retweeted conspiracy theories then, their past would still be relevant, because there would be no evidence that the pattern had been broken. Hypothetically, of course.
BTW, what was the final vote on Biden's 1994 crime bill? They way you position it, it sounds like it must have passed on strictly party lines. Did any R's support it?
Biden has evolved in his thinking? So the “if you don’t vote for Biden you aren’t really black” comment was just a fluke, right?
1994 was a long time ago, but what's more important is that Biden has evolved in his thinking, so we are voting for or against Biden today.
It's only relevant to look at a politician's long-ago past if they have not acknowledged their wrongs, and made changes. if they are still hunkered down with the same policies, then it's relevant. For instance, if a hypothetical politician made his millions by using racist policies to keep blacks from renting his properties, and he had changed, that would be one thing, but if that same person was still proud to be supported by KKK agitators, still stoked racial tensions, still embraced and retweeted conspiracy theories then, their past would still be relevant, because there would be no evidence that the pattern had been broken. Hypothetically, of course.
BTW, what was the final vote on Biden's 1994 crime bill? They way you position it, it sounds like it must have passed on strictly party lines. Did any R's support it?
1994 was a long time ago, but what's more important is that Biden has evolved in his thinking, so we are voting for or against Biden today.
It's only relevant to look at a politician's long-ago past if they have not acknowledged their wrongs, and made changes. if they are still hunkered down with the same policies, then it's relevant. For instance, if a hypothetical politician made his millions by using racist policies to keep blacks from renting his properties, and he had changed, that would be one thing, but if that same person was still proud to be supported by KKK agitators, still stoked racial tensions, still embraced and retweeted conspiracy theories then, their past would still be relevant, because there would be no evidence that the pattern had been broken. Hypothetically, of course.
BTW, what was the final vote on Biden's 1994 crime bill? They way you position it, it sounds like it must have passed on strictly party lines. Did any R's support it?
Whether 1994 was a long time ago is irrelevant as, based on Democrat logic, the crime bill is still wrecking black families today. It has a cross-generational impact.
And this is on top of busing, Biden's "good for the Negro" remarks, and Biden feeling that he can--in 2020--tell people that "they ain't black."
Biden continues to stoke racial tensions to this date with his support of BLM and the lies this movement pushes.
Whether Republicans voted for the crime bill in 1994 is truly irrelevant in this conversation as none of those Republicans are running for president today. Donald Trump, on the other hand, signed historic criminal justice reform into law that is letting some of those very same people that Biden helped to get locked up over petty stuff get out of jail.
And let's not forget about Tara Reade, which Democrats--after attempting to weaponize allegations of sexual assault against Donald Trump, Brett Kavanaugh, etc.--are also hypocritically silent on.
1994 was a long time ago, but what's more important is that Biden has evolved in his thinking, so we are voting for or against Biden today.
It's only relevant to look at a politician's long-ago past if they have not acknowledged their wrongs, and made changes. if they are still hunkered down with the same policies, then it's relevant. For instance, if a hypothetical politician made his millions by using racist policies to keep blacks from renting his properties, and he had changed, that would be one thing, but if that same person was still proud to be supported by KKK agitators, still stoked racial tensions, still embraced and retweeted conspiracy theories then, their past would still be relevant, because there would be no evidence that the pattern had been broken. Hypothetically, of course.
BTW, what was the final vote on Biden's 1994 crime bill? They way you position it, it sounds like it must have passed on strictly party lines. Did any R's support it?
So is your argument that Biden evolved since last summer of 2019? What links do you have to offer that he has changed his support for the 1994 crime bill and evolved over the past year - please provide the evidence.
As to your question on Republican support:
Democrats 188 voted yes, 64 voted no.
Republicans 46 voted yes, 131 voted no.
Bill Clinton (D) signed it into law and Democrats primarily wrote the bill.
To be fair most of the Republicans opposed it, because of things tacked into the bill to increase spending in other areas like for basketball courts for inmates.
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So I am just giving them a taste of their own medicine by attacking them for their hypocritical support of a man that voted for such a bill.
