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These are my ideas all influnced by liberty minded thinkers by still my own.
1. People can never be free while Government decides what rights your allowed to have.
2. Freedom of Speech should never have free speech zones and permits.
3. Firearms should never be registered and or restricted to free people and a free society. Countries that have disarmed it's people were later slaughter by its own government that was armed.
4. Justice should be held to the highest standard and those who lower the standard and meaning should be removed. The balance of fairness and equailty should never be seperated from the bill of rights with in our justice system.
5. Government should never tax an individuals labor, it undermines the princples of liberty and freedom. Income is not something government should aspire to control or regulate in a free society.
6. The road to slavery is to give government more power. The road to liberty is to never give the government the power in the first place.
7. Those who promote unity usually are the ones who are against liberty.
8. Medical care is a blessing not a right. Government should remove it's hands on something it can't control and leave it to the doctors and churches who deal with life and death everyday. Government only adds redtape, lobbyist and corporate corruption at the tax payers expense. Those who should be getting medical care have been left to the wolves of people who do not care.
9. Social Security is an example of what Big Government gives you.
Dependancy on a system not flexiable enough to account for inflation and not smart enough to know it doesn't work.
10. I fear many are so lost in a dream of socialism. They look for freedom within government I look for freedom without it. My freedom comes from GOD yours comes from the elite few who tell you your rights. My rights are not up for discussion or debate they are unalienable. I will protect my property, my religious beliefs, my free speech and my life. I only hope my government would do the same and uphold it's oath to the constitution that says just that. Liberty is founded on individualism. Socialism is founded on collectism.
The irony is many Libertarian thinkers are atheists.
I think he is referring to the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
I think he is referring to the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
OK, but they couldn't prove that either. I could just as well assert that your rights come from the Easter Bunny, or that all our brains are just vats in jars being programmed by The Matrix. There is no way to prove that God exists epmiricly, ergo, there is no way to prove that rights are divinely granted. A person may feel non-empiricly that God exists, but given that no person can feel what another feels, it is not subjective to critique. Something that is not subject to critique isn't reasonable and is philosophicly useless.
To find what "rights" a person has, it would be better to look for naturalistic explanations of ethics. Perhaps Immanuel Kant is in order?
OK, but they couldn't prove that either. I could just as well assert that your rights come from the Easter Bunny, or that all our brains are just vats in jars being programmed by The Matrix. There is no way to prove that God exists epmiricly, ergo, there is no way to prove that rights are divinely granted.
There is no way to prove that you love your children/spouse/parents empirically, either.
The fact that the Founders chose that particular phrase is of more import than your distaste for it.
There is no way to prove that you love your children/spouse/parents empirically, either.
The fact that the Founders chose that particular phrase is of more import than your distaste for it.
Yes, it shows they were theists who lived several decades before any real philosophers came around and tried to figure out things like Good and Evil without the help of the clergy. By this logic, since the Founding Fathers rode horses and buggies, we should all ride horses and buggies.
Yes, it shows they were theists who lived several decades before any real philosophers came around and tried to figure out things like Good and Evil without the help of the clergy. By this logic, since the Founding Fathers rode horses and buggies, we should all ride horses and buggies.
I agree that the logic of your first sentence seems to presuppose the logic of the second, with a whole lot resting on that "real" you felt compelled to add.
Yet religion and horses are more in demand than ever, while theists and buggies are in decline. Go figure.
Oh, and that reminds me: what happened to our friend empiricism?
The irony is many Libertarian thinkers are atheists.
I think the reality that he is expressing is our freedom exists independant of any law or Gov't intrusion. Even in the most repressive totalitarian countries the people are really free. They just get imprisoned or killed if the express their freedom. Everyone everywhere is free to do exactly as they choose, our country simply recognizes that freedom & in theory cannot usurp it & still be legitimate acording to the founding documents.
Documents, which truly are a contract with the people. If they violate that contract they cancel out their authority. They have no authority not expressed in the constitution & their biggest responsibility is to ensure these contractually agreed upon rights are not in any way denied the people.
IMNSHO they have failed miserably & its only thru the general squeemishness & apathy of the average modern American that its permitted to continue.
The irony is many Libertarian thinkers are atheists.
Notice I said MY god or if you prefer the creator. Have we done some study to prove because some libertarians are atheists that means liberty is anymore or less a right.
I would propose we discuss something more then the word GOD and focus on the real world of freedom and liberty and the logic of ideals. In this country the liberty to believe or do not believe in god is your right and that is the point.
"Medical care is a blessing not a right" That's a loaded statement. So what do we do with people who are very sick and don't have enough money to pay to have their illness treated? Do we just let them suffer and die? Would we really be that cold and selfish? Don't churches have it tough enough dealing with hungary and homeless people? People who worry so much about socialism have got to be among the most selfish in the world.
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