Have You thought that Islamic Terrorist are on Religious Forums trying to convert Americans into Terrorists? (government, claim)

[goldengrain]

When you think of it, is that not what you would be trying to do in their stead? Is that why we have no terrorist incidents in the US now, because it takes time to find someone dumb enough and groom him into giving his life for allah?

I noticed that the religious forum here is getting threads started by Moslems and some made me uncomfortable. I posted this question there, and thought some people here might be willing to peek at it.

I tend toward being liberal in most things, but not all. I have had disagreements with some people here, but we are all Americans and it is our right to argue and disagree.

I noticed on another forum things being posted by people claiming to be followers of Islam. They were wrong in representing it as only a religion of peace and fairness and equal play. I argued with them. They fought back. I quoted the sura. They said it was false and someone was feeding me propaganda. I said it was from the Koran. They said it was probably published by some American publishing house by prejudiced people. I said it was distributed by the government of Saudi Arabia. They no longer posted.

I am concerned that gullible people could be taken in by this. We are not accustomed to people who call themselves religious lying like that.
I have problems with many religions, and each have evil people in them. I wish the Muslem relgion would have some sort of democratice idealism, live and let live. Although many Muslems in the US feel this way, if theirs were the predominant religion we would see little tolerance for other religions, in fact, they tax anyone of another religion in their countries, just for being different. That is like the perdominantly white people in the US taxing minorities just because they look different.

But some on these forums sugar coat the religion, as though they are trolling for gullible people.

In this country we allow and sometimes encourage our kids to study multiple reliions. But these people posting are from countries where that does not happen, so they think they can put deceptive information on sites like this and people will believe them just because they said it.

[caution]

I caught one of them after me Lucky Charms. :-)

[Huckleberry3911948]

funny how people can read the same stuff but get out of it very very different things.
some read a book and hear it say be kind gentle caring, some read it and it say go blow up stuff.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

funny how people can read the same stuff but get out of it very very different things.
some read a book and hear it say be kind gentle caring, some read it and it say go blow up stuff.

I know. I have that very problem with religion, in genera. If I could join and be accepted for not believing god wanted this and that, or even believing that god did some of the things he is proported to have done, I would be happy.

I just would feel like a hypocrate to believe in a lot of the stuff in holy books that most believers either do not know about, or pretend is not there.

I am not more moral than they, but would like to have my philosophy integrated with my life and not just something I skim over on the weekend.

I am curious to know 'what it is all about'. There is a point at which religion, at least the formal sort, just holds you back, and science seems to be the discipline that is really trying to find that out.

There is some part of the Old Test in which god says you will know him by his works. Who is trying to understand more of god's works, science or religion?

To me, the OT and Koran contain shocking horrors both perpetrated by god as well as brutal penalties for what he considers wrongdoing. I cannot see where the attraction is in this type of god. Is it that their followers tend to have overbearing fathers and weak moms in their youth?

It is no surprise to me that peoples with this as the basis for the highest authority in their childhood may be involved in the struggles we see in the mideast.
I have known Jewish people all through my life, and not many Muslems. I have met many Jews who dissassociate themselves with Zionism for various reasons. It takes courage for them to speak out, but when they do I am certain that it reminds people that one can have one feeling for Zionism and another, opposite feeling for the Jewish people.
I do not hear the Muslim voices renouncing the hatred that has sprouted from their religious roots, though, and this may cause them much trouble as a group.
I am sure they think that they must appear unified to the media and the US public, but the public at large in the US is reared under freedoms and are more used to moderate voices in the name of religion and they have trouble finding the moderate voice of Muslims.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by caution

I caught one of them after me Lucky Charms. :-)

Yes. They have a reputation for doing that.