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View Poll Results: Who has read:
1984 38 13.82%
Animal Farm 27 9.82%
Farenheit 451 7 2.55%
All of them 180 65.45%
None of them 23 8.36%
Voters: 275. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-18-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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I was wondering how many people on this site have read "1984" and "Animal Farm"- the classics by George Orwell that demonstrated the dangers of Marxism/communism and the methods by which they gain power. Additionally "Farenheit 451" by Bradbury showed a culture (like liberalism of today) in which political correctness and the "offended" had resulted in elimination of free speech.


Orwell was once an ardent communist; however, he had his eyes opened after serving as a volunteer for the Marxists in the Spanish Civil War. He did a complete "180" and became one of the biggest enemies of Marxism. Churchill loved his books, which says a lot.


One wonders if libs read "1984", "Animal Farm", and "Farenheit 451" and really thought about the content whether they would still be liberals?


Those books used to be standard fare in highschool literature; I would imagine that liberal teachers try to hide them now, rather than teach them.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:05 AM
 
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I read "1984" when I was ten years old (it was my mom's copy, and I'd brought it to school to read during 'recess'--it was a very cold winter, so we were staying inside.) One of the other teachers initially objected, thinking the subject matter was above my head, but my teacher said that she had no doubt I understood what was going on in the book.

I never read "Animal Farm". Dunno why, just never did.

"Fahrenheit 451"--I started it, but could only make it a third of the way through the book. I usually finish books I start, even if I don't like them, so it must've been one of the rare ones that I really couldn't stand, or Bradbury's writing style just didn't appeal to me. (Sometimes that happens--the subject's appealing, but the author just can't pull me into the story.)
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:07 AM
 
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1984 was a great book but it really didn't spend a lot of time on the subject of Communism. The government of oceania was communist, but that wasn't really the subject. It was a very authoritarian government.

Animal Farm, yeap communist...but I love how it ended. The animals couldn't tell the difference between the Communist(there pig leaders) and the Capitalists(the human farners who the pigs had invited to dinner...)
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:10 AM
 
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I have read all three books back when I was a Calfornia high school student in the 1980s (while California schools still had some academic rigor). No longer a Democrat--officially registered to vote but not in any political party. And no longer a California resident.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:11 AM
 
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I have read both 1984 & Animal Farm. Communism is not liberalism. Totalitarian governments come in more than one form.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:12 AM
 
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Required reading as a sophomore in high school.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:13 AM
 
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One wonders if libs read "1984", "Animal Farm", and "Farenheit 451" and really thought about the content whether they would still be liberals?
Leftists often engage in 'projection', where they assign their own negative traits to the political opposition.

I'll add "Brave New World" by Huxley to the required reading list.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:13 AM
 
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Regardless of political bent, it would have been pretty difficult to avoid them if one was a member of my generation on a college track during high school. They were all required reading. I also read Huxley‘s Brave New World, which to this day remains one of the most prescient books I read as a young person.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:14 AM
 
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I have read both 1984 & Animal Farm. Communism is not liberalism. Totalitarian governments come in more than one form.
Yeah that is something a lot people don't understand. Communism is collective ownership of the means of production(i.e. there is no "free market"). And yes you don't need to be communist to have a totalitarian government.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:23 AM
 
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I was wondering how many people on this site have read "1984" and "Animal Farm"- the classics by George Orwell that demonstrated the dangers of Marxism/communism and the methods by which they gain power. Additionally "Farenheit 451" by Bradbury showed a culture (like liberalism of today) in which political correctness and the "offended" had resulted in elimination of free speech.


Orwell was once an ardent communist; however, he had his eyes opened after serving as a volunteer for the Marxists in the Spanish Civil War. He did a complete "180" and became one of the biggest enemies of Marxism. Churchill loved his books, which says a lot.


One wonders if libs read "1984", "Animal Farm", and "Farenheit 451" and really thought about the content whether they would still be liberals?


Those books used to be standard fare in highschool literature; I would imagine that liberal teachers try to hide them now, rather than teach them.
Not this again. George Orwell did NOT write about the dangers of socialism/Marxism. He depicted dystopian societies of totalitarian governments, left OR right.

Having said that, Orwell was a very strong proponent and outspoken supporter of Democratic socialism. That is a fact. Do you not know this, OP?

I really wish people on the right would maybe do a little research on George Orwell before constantly using him as their poster boy of the laissez-faire economics they believe in. Orwell wouldn't be happy about it.

https://news.stanford.edu/2016/02/16...woloch-021516/

https://thewire.in/books/remembering...-the-socialist

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timreut...george-orwell/
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