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Old 07-27-2023, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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We need age and term limits. So tired of these old fossils hanging in there well past their expiration date just to keep the gravy train and elite status going. Unfortunately, the folks who could enact a law to achieve this will never pass it.
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Old 07-27-2023, 09:55 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Did anyone see the pee stains on Mitch McConnell’s pants when he had his stroke during his news conference today?

Poor guy…propped up there and not allowed to retire because he fits the conservative agenda.

Sadly, if someone could step in he’d be thrown in the garbage as that’s how the right rolls.
Why were you looking at his crotch?

Someone already mentioned it but getting rid of incumbents will concentrate even more power in the unelected and not really accountable to anyone bureaucracy.

That's the Deep State everyone talks about. Presidents, Senators, Congressmen, Governors come and go but those bureaucrats remain imposing their agendas on every regulation they write. You see it towards the end of every Presidential term, appointed officials become Civil Servants and burrow into their departments and keep their ideology going, except now they can't be fired.

Anyone who thinks a Senator, Congressman, State elected official down to the smallest town reads the legislation they vote is so naive they shouldn't be allowed outside without a chaperone. The most any of them get, even for legislation that runs a thousand pages, is a one or two page outline created by an aide or, sometimes, a lobbyist.
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Old 07-27-2023, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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I bet most Americans don’t know who is on the ballot. What they know is they are Democrats/Republicans and it is only right to vote a label like the one they have in their head.
I'll go a bit further...most Americans simply don't know.

This is not a criticism by part lines but when people talk about dumb voters, IMO the vast majority of people are dumb voters. They vote along party lines, they vote for who their favorite athlete/musician/actor supports. And the candidates play down to that - they scream and yell about the current hot topic but when it comes to the nuts and bolts...well, we don't have time for that in a 30 second commercial.

What's that quote...

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Do y’all remember, before the internet, that people thought the cause of stupidity was the lack of access to information? Yeah. It wasn’t that.
And the other one,

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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. -Albert Einstein
Alas, things will likely never change.
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Old 07-27-2023, 10:17 AM
 
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Why discriminate based on age if they are fully capable? And if not why not a minimum voting age? 25+ would likely have prevented a senile banana peel from becoming POTUS and a huge amount of destruction and embarrassment.
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Old 07-27-2023, 10:18 AM
 
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We need age and term limits. So tired of these old fossils hanging in there well past their expiration date just to keep the gravy train and elite status going. Unfortunately, the folks who could enact a law to achieve this will never pass it.
Add to this a term post leaving office that you cannot work for a lobbying firm in Washington, say 5 years. That way they actually leave Washington
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Old 07-27-2023, 10:35 AM
 
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/26/polit...nce/index.html

It is becoming ever so common that old people are hanging on to the power in today’s American government. Look at the creatures across all the three branches…including the one who took her last breath on her job in the Supreme Court while losing control of all her pea/ bowl movements.

It is clear that the political system is outdated and inefficient and needs reformation. What do you all think which should be done to address this growing problem??
We instituted lifetime appointments and our seniority system in Congress when people did not live as long so the current situation was not really foreseen. There is a place for institutional experience but having the same names in office for years smacks of feudalism or at least oligarchy. The continuing of 'first families' in office was most notable in the post-Civil War south and led to some fun stuff when seniority gave these southerners the chairs of some committees. I do believe that the seniority system led to many military bases being placed in the south and named after Confederate generals. Remember the backlash when folks tried to prevent Jesse Helms from leading a committee?

We have an aircraft carrier named after a segregationist who never served in the military. But he was in Congress from 1914 to 1965!
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:31 AM
 
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Add to this a term post leaving office that you cannot work for a lobbying firm in Washington, say 5 years. That way they actually leave Washington
5 years isn't long enough. It should be 10 years or 2 years for every year they were in office, whichever is longer.

And 1 year terms. Unpaid.
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:40 AM
 
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Did anyone see the pee stains on Mitch McConnell’s pants when he had his stroke during his news conference today?

Poor guy…propped up there and not allowed to retire because he fits the conservative agenda.

Sadly, if someone could step in he’d be thrown in the garbage as that’s how the right rolls.
Now do your commentary on Biden and Fetterman. Well, we're waiting!
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Last night we watched "All the Kings Men" starring Broderick Crawford as Willie Stark. A must see for anyone who's interested in politics. Better yet shown in our public school system.
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:47 AM
 
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We have an aircraft carrier named after a segregationist who never served in the military. But he was in Congress from 1914 to 1965!
The Stennis was commissioned in 1995.

Weird how this just seems to get a hall pass from serious protest, surely just an oversight.

Otherwise it might mean that some people with comfy seats on the boat don't want to rock it and make the powers that be kick them off of it.
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