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Old 07-10-2008, 03:24 PM
 
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From CNN:

Rove ignores committee's subpoena, refuses to testify

Published: 7/10/08, 5:00 PM EDT


WASHINGTON (CNN) - Karl Rove, President Bush's longtime political guru, refused to obey an order to testify before a House Judiciary Committee hearing Thursday.

Rove's lawyer asserted that Rove was "immune" from the subpoena the committee had issued, arguing that the committee could not compel him to testify due to "executive privilege."
The panel is investigating allegations that Rove and his White House allies dismissed U.S. attorneys and prosecuted officials who they saw as political opponents.
The panel subpoenaed Rove in May after his lawyer, Robert D. Luskin, made clear the former White House deputy chief of staff would not appear voluntarily.
Luskin responded immediately that Rove still would not appear, prompting a threat of prosecution from the Judiciary Committee chairman, Rep. John Conyers, a Michigan Democrat, and Rep. Linda Sanchez, a California Democrat who chairs the subcommittee on commercial and administrative law.
"A refusal to appear in violation of the subpoena could subject Mr. Rove to contempt proceedings, including statutory contempt under federal law and proceedings under the inherent contempt authority of the House of Representatives," Conyers and Sanchez wrote. "We are unaware of any proper legal basis for Mr. Rove's refusal to even appear today as required by the subpoena," Sanchez said Thursday morning when Rove failed to show up. "The courts have made clear that no one -- not even the president -- is immune from compulsory process. That is what the Supreme Court rules in U.S. v. Nixon and Clinton v. Jones." """


Must have a lot to hide..... but repubs will have excuses for lawlessness and their pet criminals........

 
Old 07-10-2008, 03:30 PM
 
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Must have a lot to hide..... but repubs will have excuses for lawlessness and their pet criminals........
But don't we all?

And I wonder what we'll be discussing come December?

Ah, democracy....
 
Old 07-10-2008, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Ever heard of co-equal branches of government?

Congress has NO authority to call in presidential advisors for interogation purposes.

I do believe the WH did offer to have Rove and others testify off the record, unrecorded and not under oath.

Sounds fair to me.

Of course, the blowhard dem/lib congress turned that down to try and stir the pot. They are not at all interested in what really happened and why.

They just want it to appear something sinister was going on.

Good for the administration. The left continues to get their butts handed to them by this administration.
 
Old 07-10-2008, 07:02 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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That sounds fair to you? What is the point of testifying if there is no oath involved and it's not recorded?

I believe the term you might be referring to is checks and balances, meaning that no branch is entitled to do what they please without reprecussions and without facing up to their wrongdoings.

Congress is actually doing their job correctly this time.

And again, this is not a right/left issue, take off your team jersey.
 
Old 07-10-2008, 08:04 PM
 
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Ever heard of co-equal branches of government?

Congress has NO authority to call in presidential advisors for interogation purposes.

I do believe the WH did offer to have Rove and others testify off the record, unrecorded and not under oath.

Sounds fair to me.

Of course, the blowhard dem/lib congress turned that down to try and stir the pot. They are not at all interested in what really happened and why.

They just want it to appear something sinister was going on.

Good for the administration. The left continues to get their butts handed to them by this administration.

""" but repubs will have excuses for lawlessness and their pet criminals........"""


right on time
 
Old 07-10-2008, 08:40 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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Originally Posted by LLLL98 View Post
That sounds fair to you? What is the point of testifying if there is no oath involved and it's not recorded?

I believe the term you might be referring to is checks and balances, meaning that no branch is entitled to do what they please without reprecussions and without facing up to their wrongdoings.

Congress is actually doing their job correctly this time.

And again, this is not a right/left issue, take off your team jersey.

This particular Congress/these current Dems seem to be the weakest in history as far as making a stand and following things through . They are tailor made for the GOP .

Lots of bark but no bite
 
Old 07-10-2008, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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That sounds fair to you? What is the point of testifying if there is no oath involved and it's not recorded?

I believe the term you might be referring to is checks and balances, meaning that no branch is entitled to do what they please without reprecussions and without facing up to their wrongdoings.

Congress is actually doing their job correctly this time.

And again, this is not a right/left issue, take off your team jersey.
It's fair because the WH is under no obligation or authority to submit their advisors to congressional questioning, especially on a matter that pertains to presidential perogative - Attorney hiring and firing. Executive privilege and all. Separation of Powers and all that stuff.

What exactly did Rove do wrong?
 
Old 07-10-2008, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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""" but repubs will have excuses for lawlessness and their pet criminals........"""


right on time
Saved you from coming up with more of your tortured twisted logic having anything to do with "W".
 
Old 07-10-2008, 11:58 PM
 
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It's fair because the WH is under no obligation or authority to submit their advisors to congressional questioning, especially on a matter that pertains to presidential perogative - Attorney hiring and firing. Executive privilege and all. Separation of Powers and all that stuff.

What exactly did Rove do wrong?
You ignore the point or did you simply not see it because you're blinded by your support for W? If Rove et al aren't going to submit to being under oath or being recorded, we might as well hang up the cleats, game over. We lost. Regardless of intent, is there not anything sinister about the implications here, sanrene?

With all the talk on the right about personal responsibility, they seem so overzealous in their dismissal of ACCOUNTABILITY, especially where this current administration is involved. This is not a partisan issue, and kudos to LLLL98 for setting the record straight. No sane individual would feel the government doesn't need to held accountable because of a technicality concocted precisely for the purpose of avoiding said accountability. All this with a president who signs laws then effectively nullifies them with his signing statements. No, nothing sinister here, just keep movin'...
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