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Old 09-04-2008, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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Here we have a state which has been controlled by liberals for 40+ years.

cbs2chicago.com - Nearly 125 Shot Dead In Chicago Over Summer (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.summer.shootings.2.810166.html - broken link)

Nearly 125 Shot Dead In Chicago Over Summer
Total Is About Double The Death Toll In Iraq
CHICAGO (CBS) ― An estimated 123 people were shot and killed over the summer. That's nearly double the number of soldiers killed in Iraq over the same time period.

Information from wire service reports and the Chicago Police Major Incidents log indicated that 123 people were shot and killed throughout the city between the start of Memorial Day weekend on May 26, and the end of Labor Day on Sept. 1.

According to the Defense Department, 65 soldiers were killed in combat in Iraq. About the same number were killed in Afghanistan over that same period.

In the same time period, an estimated 245 people were shot and wounded in the city.

Tracking Summer Shootings In Chicago

The South Side's Englewood District, which includes the Englewood and West Englewood neighborhoods on the city's South Side, fared the worst over the summer. A total of 14 people were shot dead there, and 48 were shot and wounded.

The next highest totals came in the Grand Crossing District, which includes the South Shore, Woodlawn, Park Manor and Grand Crossing neighborhoods on the South Side, 12 people were killed and 31 were injured.

Also hit severely by gun violence over the summer was the Ogden District – which includes the Near Southwest Side's Lawndale and Little Village neighborhoods – where 10 people were killed and six were injured.

The South Chicago District on the Southeast Side saw nine people killed and 11 injured, almost all concentrated in the South Chicago and Avalon Park neighborhoods at the north end of the district.

The West Side's Austin District saw also saw nine people killed and 12 injured, while the Far South Side's Calumet District – including the Roseland, Fernwood and Pullman neighborhoods – saw eight killed and 20 injured.



Breakdown of summer shootings by police district:
• District 1 – Central (Loop, West Loop, Near South Side): 1 dead, 4 injured
• District 2 – Wentworth (Washington Park, Bronzeville, Fuller Park): 1 dead, 14 injured
• District 3 – Grand Crossing (South Shore, Woodlawn, Park Manor, Grand Crossing) 12 dead, 31 injured
• District 4 – South Chicago (Far Southeast Side to Indiana state line): 9 dead, 11 injured
• District 5 – Calumet (Roseland, Fernwood, West Pullman): 8 dead, 20 injured
• District 6 – Gresham (Auburn-Gresham, Chatham): 7 dead, 13 injured
• District 7 – Englewood (Englewood, West Englewood: 14 dead, 48 injured
• District 8 – Chicago Lawn (most of the Southwest Side): 7 dead, 14 injured
• District 9 – Deering (Back of the Yards, Bridgeport, Canaryville, Brighton Park): 4 dead, 19 injured
• District 10 – Ogden (Little Village, much of North Lawndale): 10 dead, 6 injured
• District 11 – Harrison (Garfield Park, parts of North Lawndale): 8 dead, 18 injured
• District 12 – Monroe (Near West Side): 1 dead, 3 injured
• District 13 – Wood (West Town, Ukrainian Village, parts of Humboldt Park): 4 dead, 2 injured
• District 14 – Shakespeare (Wicker Park, Bucktown, Logan Square, parts of Humboldt Park): 6 dead, 1 injured
• District 15 – Austin (North and South Austin): 9 dead, 12 injured
• District 16 – Jefferson Park (Far Northwest Side from Portage Park to O'Hare International Airport): 0 dead, 0 injured
• District 17 – Albany Park (Albany Park, Irving Park, Avondale): 2 dead, 0 injured
• District 18 – Near North (Lincoln Park, Gold Coast Magnificent Mile, Near North Side): 1 dead, 4 injured
• District 19 – Belmont (Lakeview, Roscoe Village, Lincoln Square, North Center): 1 dead, 1 injured
• District 20 – Lincoln (Edgewater, Andersonville, Rosehill Cemetery, Budlong Woods): 0 dead, 1 injured
• District 21 – Prairie (Hyde Park, Kenwood Oakland-Douglas, Lake Meadows, Chinatown): 2 dead, 1 injured
• District 22 – Morgan Park (Beverly, Morgan Park, Mt. Greenwood): 6 dead, 4 injured
• District 23 – Town Hall (East Lakeview, Uptown): 1 dead, 4 injured
• District 24 – Rogers Park (East and West Rogers Park): 2 dead, 2 injured
• District 25 – Grand Central (Belmont-Cragin, Kelvyn Park, Hermosa, Galewood): 7 dead, 12 injured
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Old 09-04-2008, 03:11 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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Hmm... have you looked at the statistics to see how many Iraqis were killed due to our invasion and occupation?

Have you looked at the cost that each American must bear for our invasion and occupation? Not to mention the occupation of over 130 foreign nations? So much so that not only will I continue to pay for it throughout my life, but my children and grandchildren will have to pay this debt as well.
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Old 09-04-2008, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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Hmm... have you looked at the statistics to see how many Iraqis were killed due to our invasion and occupation?

Have you looked at the cost that each American must bear for our invasion and occupation? Not to mention the occupation of over 130 foreign nations? So much so that not only will I continue to pay for it throughout my life, but my children and grandchildren will have to pay this debt as well.
The cost of the Iraq war is pittance compared to the money spent on welfare programs.
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Nice. Population of US soldiers in Iraq, 160,000. Population of American in Chicago, 3-million-something. Compare the murder rate of a city with 160,000 people to the death rate of Americans in Iraq, why doncha? Say, Madison, Wisconsin---controlled by furious radical liberal democrats. 25 murders since the Iraq war started.
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:46 PM
 
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That's what happens when you declare yourself a sanctuary city; defy DHS until they sue you; pay overtime to provide police protection every time LaRaza tells you they want to have a march; and your city council is run by hispanic anchor babies.

If you think Chicago is bad, wait until Obama gets into office, rams amnesty down our throats and raises all of our taxes to take care of every single illegal alien and their chain migrating family members.
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:47 PM
 
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The cost of the Iraq war is pittance compared to the money spent on welfare programs.
Obviously, some have no idea how much we spend on either one. Also confusing, I've noted, can be the difference between the number of Americans in Iraq and Afhganistan and the number of Americans in Chicago...
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Obviously, some have no idea how much we spend on either one. Also confusing, I've noted, can be the difference between the number of Americans in Iraq and Afhganistan and the number of Americans in Chicago...
Not to mention the percentage of deaths from non-hostile causes in Iraq, which is approximately 20% overall, and much higher in some months....

iCasualties: Iraq Coalition Casualty Count - Hostile/NonHostile Chart (http://www.icasualties.org/oif/HostileNonHostile.aspx - broken link)
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Here we have a state which has been controlled by liberals for 40+ years.

cbs2chicago.com - Nearly 125 Shot Dead In Chicago Over Summer (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.summer.shootings.2.810166.html - broken link)

Nearly 125 Shot Dead In Chicago Over Summer
Total Is About Double The Death Toll In Iraq
CHICAGO (CBS) ― An estimated 123 people were shot and killed over the summer. That's nearly double the number of soldiers killed in Iraq over the same time period.

Information from wire service reports and the Chicago Police Major Incidents log indicated that 123 people were shot and killed throughout the city between the start of Memorial Day weekend on May 26, and the end of Labor Day on Sept. 1.

According to the Defense Department, 65 soldiers were killed in combat in Iraq. About the same number were killed in Afghanistan over that same period.

In the same time period, an estimated 245 people were shot and wounded in the city.

Tracking Summer Shootings In Chicago

The South Side's Englewood District, which includes the Englewood and West Englewood neighborhoods on the city's South Side, fared the worst over the summer. A total of 14 people were shot dead there, and 48 were shot and wounded.

The next highest totals came in the Grand Crossing District, which includes the South Shore, Woodlawn, Park Manor and Grand Crossing neighborhoods on the South Side, 12 people were killed and 31 were injured.

Also hit severely by gun violence over the summer was the Ogden District – which includes the Near Southwest Side's Lawndale and Little Village neighborhoods – where 10 people were killed and six were injured.

The South Chicago District on the Southeast Side saw nine people killed and 11 injured, almost all concentrated in the South Chicago and Avalon Park neighborhoods at the north end of the district.

The West Side's Austin District saw also saw nine people killed and 12 injured, while the Far South Side's Calumet District – including the Roseland, Fernwood and Pullman neighborhoods – saw eight killed and 20 injured.



Breakdown of summer shootings by police district:
• District 1 – Central (Loop, West Loop, Near South Side): 1 dead, 4 injured
• District 2 – Wentworth (Washington Park, Bronzeville, Fuller Park): 1 dead, 14 injured
• District 3 – Grand Crossing (South Shore, Woodlawn, Park Manor, Grand Crossing) 12 dead, 31 injured
• District 4 – South Chicago (Far Southeast Side to Indiana state line): 9 dead, 11 injured
• District 5 – Calumet (Roseland, Fernwood, West Pullman): 8 dead, 20 injured
• District 6 – Gresham (Auburn-Gresham, Chatham): 7 dead, 13 injured
• District 7 – Englewood (Englewood, West Englewood: 14 dead, 48 injured
• District 8 – Chicago Lawn (most of the Southwest Side): 7 dead, 14 injured
• District 9 – Deering (Back of the Yards, Bridgeport, Canaryville, Brighton Park): 4 dead, 19 injured
• District 10 – Ogden (Little Village, much of North Lawndale): 10 dead, 6 injured
• District 11 – Harrison (Garfield Park, parts of North Lawndale): 8 dead, 18 injured
• District 12 – Monroe (Near West Side): 1 dead, 3 injured
• District 13 – Wood (West Town, Ukrainian Village, parts of Humboldt Park): 4 dead, 2 injured
• District 14 – Shakespeare (Wicker Park, Bucktown, Logan Square, parts of Humboldt Park): 6 dead, 1 injured
• District 15 – Austin (North and South Austin): 9 dead, 12 injured
• District 16 – Jefferson Park (Far Northwest Side from Portage Park to O'Hare International Airport): 0 dead, 0 injured
• District 17 – Albany Park (Albany Park, Irving Park, Avondale): 2 dead, 0 injured
• District 18 – Near North (Lincoln Park, Gold Coast Magnificent Mile, Near North Side): 1 dead, 4 injured
• District 19 – Belmont (Lakeview, Roscoe Village, Lincoln Square, North Center): 1 dead, 1 injured
• District 20 – Lincoln (Edgewater, Andersonville, Rosehill Cemetery, Budlong Woods): 0 dead, 1 injured
• District 21 – Prairie (Hyde Park, Kenwood Oakland-Douglas, Lake Meadows, Chinatown): 2 dead, 1 injured
• District 22 – Morgan Park (Beverly, Morgan Park, Mt. Greenwood): 6 dead, 4 injured
• District 23 – Town Hall (East Lakeview, Uptown): 1 dead, 4 injured
• District 24 – Rogers Park (East and West Rogers Park): 2 dead, 2 injured
• District 25 – Grand Central (Belmont-Cragin, Kelvyn Park, Hermosa, Galewood): 7 dead, 12 injured
You think that Chicago is "liberal"?? It might be liberal if you live in Fuknutt Arkansas but by big city standards it is actually quite moderate-conservative and business friendly. Ask all the Hippies from 1968 how "liberal" Chicago is!
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Old 09-04-2008, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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The cost of the Iraq war is pittance compared to the money spent on welfare programs.
Surely you can't be serious!
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Old 09-04-2008, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Do you want something really interesting to sink your teeth into? Try this.

In Iraq, number of US troops per 1,000 population = about 5
In Chicago, number of police per 1,000 population = 4.79.
(Washington DC 6.53.)(Iraq, assuming 160,000 troops, 32-million people)

We are trying to police Iraq with the same concentration of force that we are applying to keep control of the docile and law-abiding population of Chicago.
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