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Old 06-15-2013, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Mayacama Mtns in CA
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Chad3, are you aware you are replying to someone who posted in 2008 and who is no longer allowed on CD?
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:22 AM
 
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Obamacare provisions start Oct 1 2013, about 3.5 months away.

Amazing how it's blamed even before it starts....shows complete partisan willful ignorance.
Everything I said is true. I wish you were more informed, or perhaps you have such a strong emotional attachment to Obama that you can't think critically on anything to do with him.

#1 Are you suggesting that there is not a mandate? Yes Obama promised there wouldn't be one...but that simply isn't true. I am shocked that I am the first person to bring this to your attention as this has been made public for years. So the prediction that we wouldn't have one was wrong.

#2 The non-partisan CBO (Congressional Budget Office) is predicting that uninsured Americans will never fall below 30 Million people. Do you disagree with the CBO and why? So the prediction that there would be "universal" healthcare coverage and everyone would be insured by 2014 will obviously be off.

#3 Yes, Obama might have said that premiums would fall, but they haven't. They are going up. Perhaps his timing was off and they will fall in the future, but he is currently wrong. Premiums will not be lower in 2014 than 2008. The article's predictions were wrong. Obama was also wrong.
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Chad3, are you aware you are replying to someone who posted in 2008 and who is no longer allowed on CD?
No, I was not aware of that.

Thank you,
Chad.
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Old 06-15-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Boy were those predictions way off. 30 million to still be uninsured, a mandate, premiums to rise, etc..
Did anyone every consider that Obamacare for citizens would be subject to IRS regulations? Well, anyone other than Speaker Pelosi?
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Old 06-15-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Judging by the speed with which Democrats are running away from it, they obviously know that it's a horribly thought out disaster-in-the-making with no chance of reducing costs due to tons of regulations (17,500+ pages and counting), and has certainly contributed to this worst-in-the-nation's-history 'recovery'.

II didn't expect that the party which was 100% responsible for the housing crash could come up with something equally bad if not a heck of a lot worse than ObamaCare, but Democrats are notorious for being extremely stupid on all things economic; look at the pensions debts and/or credit rating's of Illinois, or the city of Detroit, which used to be a thriving metropolis until the Democrats got their hands on it and turned it into America's answer to Athens, minus the rioting-in-the-streets part.
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