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Old 11-24-2008, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17 View Post
No matter what mistakes you have made...at least this was one promise you kept. Will we be able to say that at the end of the Obama regime?
How did Bush make us safer? Because he got lucky that there was not another attack?

Because of Bush, America has lost respect and dignity in the World Arena. The "weapons of mass destruction" lies also destroyed our credibility with even our own allies. We are NOT safer now!

I believe Obama will be able to heal those broken wounds and allow us to become the Great Nation that we were 8 years ago.

 
Old 11-24-2008, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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I see some of you like to applaud Bush's successes.....Now let's examine the failures....Geez that's a long list:

So let us count our spoons.
Emergency Management: They completely failed to manage the first large-scale emergency since 9/11. Despite all their big talk and hundreds of billions of dollars spent on homeland security over the past four years, this administration proved itself stunningly incompetent when faced with an actual emergency. (Katrina Relief Funds Squandered) (http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060214/1061115.asp - broken link)
Fiscal Management: America is broke. No wait, we're worse than broke. In less than five years these borrow and spend-thrifts have nearly doubled our national debt, to a stunning $8.2 trillion. These are not your father's Republicans who treated public dollars as though they were an endangered species. These Republicans waste money in ways and in quantities that make those old tax and spend liberals of yore look like tight-fisted Scots.
This administration is so incompetent that you can just throw a dart at the front page of your morning paper and whatever story of importance it hits will prove my point.
Katrina relief: Eleven thousand spanking new mobile homes sinking into the Arkansas mud. Seems no one in the administration knew there were federal and state laws prohibiting trailers in flood zones. Oops. That little mistake cost you $850 million -- and counting.
Medicare Drug Program: This $50 billion white elephant debuted by trampling many of those it was supposed to save. The mess forced states to step in (http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/ts_more.php?id=69337_0_10_0_M - broken link) and try to save its own citizens from being killed by the administration's poorly planned and executed attempt to privatize huge hunks of the federal health safety net.
Afghanistan: Good managers know that in order to pocket the gains of a project, you have to finish it. This administration started out fine in Afghanistan. They had the Taliban and al Queda on the run and Osama bin Laden trapped in a box canyon. Then they were distracted by a nearby shiney object -- Iraq. We are now $75 billion out of pocket in Afghanistan and its sitting president still rules only within the confines of the nation's capital. Tribal warlords, the growing remnants of the Taliban and al Qaeda call the shots in the rest of the county.
Iraq: This ill-begotten war was supposed to only cost us $65 billion. It has now cost us over $300 billion (http://opencrs.cdt.org/rpts/RL33110_20051003.pdf - broken link) and continues to suck $6 billion a month out of our children's futures. Meanwhile the three warring tribes Bush "liberated" are using our money and soldiers' lives to partition the country. The Shiites and Kurds are carving out the prime cuts while treating the once-dominant Sunnis the same way the Israelis treat the Palestinians, forcing them onto Iraq's version of Death Valley. Meanwhile Iran is increasingly calling the shots in the Shiite region as mullahs loyal to Iran take charge. (More)
Iran: The administration not only jinxed its Afghanistan operations by attacking Iraq, but also provided Iran both the rationale for and time to move toward nuclear weapons. The Bush administration's neocons' threats to attack Syria next only provided more support for religious conservatives within Iran who argued U.S. intentions in the Middle East were clear, and that only the deterrent that comes with nuclear weapons could protect them.
North Korea: Ditto. Also add to all the above the example North Korea set for Iran. Clearly once a country possesses nukes, the U.S. drops the veiled threats and wants to talk.
Social Programs: It's easier to get affordable -- even free -- American-style medical care, paid for with American dollars, if you are injured in Iraq, Afghanistan or are victims of a Pakistani earthquake, than if you live and pay taxes in the good old U.S.A. Nearly 50 million Americans can't afford medical insurance. Nevertheless the administration has proposed a budget that will cut $40 billion from domestic social programs, including health care for the working poor. The administration is quick to say that those services will be replaced by its "faith-based" programs. Not so fast...

he Environment: Here's a little pop quiz: What happens if all the coral in the world's oceans dies? Answer: Coral is the first rung on the food-chain ladder; so when it goes, everything else in the ocean dies. And if the oceans die, we die.
The coral in the world's oceans are dying (called "bleaching") (http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/CB_indices/coral_bleaching_indices.html - broken link) at an alarming and accelerating rate. Global warming is the culprit. Nevertheless, this administration continues as the world's leading global warming denier. Why? Because they seem to feel it's more cost effective to be dead than to force reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. How stupid is that? And time is running out.
Trade: We are approaching a $1 trillion annual trade deficit (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1411846.cms - broken link), most of it with Asia, $220 billion with just China -- just last year.
Energy: Record high energy prices. Record energy company profits. Dick Cheney's energy task force meetings remain secret. Need I say more?
Consumers: Americans finally did it last year -- they achieved a negative savings rate. (Folks in China save 10 percent, for contrast.) If the government can spend more than it makes and just say "charge it" when it runs out, so can we. The average American now owes $9,000 to credit card companies. Imagine that.
Human Rights: America now runs secret prisons and a secret judicial system that would give Kafka fits. And the U.S. has joined the list of nations that tortures prisioners of war. (Shut up George! We have pictures!)
I could go on for another 1,000 words listing the stunning incompetence of the Bush administration and its GOP sycophants in Congress. But what's the use? No seems to give a fig. The sun continues to shine in this fool's paradise. House starts were up in January. The stock market is finally back over 11,000.
But don't bother George W. Bush with any of this. While seldom right, he is never in doubt. Doubt is Bush's enemy. Worry? How can he worry when he has no doubts?
 
Old 11-24-2008, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Murphy, TX
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You know its amazing nothing else has happened, considering our wide open southern border. Anyone can basically cross the southern border carrying a ton of explosives. Wish Bush would have closed the one up already...
 
Old 11-24-2008, 08:15 PM
 
Location: City, State
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Kingtodd -- his run is over. Instead of spending however long it took you to write that negative diatribe, how about thinking about something positive. Whether that be about Bush, about your family, anything!

Seems like a gigantic waste of time to put forward so many negative thoughts.
 
Old 11-24-2008, 08:15 PM
 
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Um - no. The presidential daily brief for Aug of 2001 talked about planes being hijacked to procure the release of that blind sheik.

Nothing about attacking the US by flying our own planes into buildings.
Okay and your reply to the REST of my post debunking your theory that it's Clinton/Gore's fault? LOL

Bush did nada with that intel to secure the airways. NOTHING. he actually got multiple intels on hijacks and tossed them to the side.
 
Old 11-24-2008, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH
A bunch of wishful thinking from Dennis the Tin Foil Man. Why, oh why, have the dems NOT brought forth impeachment charges in the last two years they have been in charge? Because they know that simple policy disagreements do not justify/warrant impeachment hearings.

Everybody had the same intelligence - most came to the same conclusions.
 
Old 11-24-2008, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Aiken S.C
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I could sit here for a week and show you bush screwups.
 
Old 11-24-2008, 08:22 PM
 
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A bunch of wishful thinking from Dennis the Tin Foil Man. Why, oh why, have the dems NOT brought forth impeachment charges in the last two years they have been in charge? Because they know that simple policy disagreements do not justify/warrant impeachment hearings.

Everybody had the same intelligence - most came to the same conclusions.
Im glad you call a kucinich ---a 6 term congressman who does nothing but fight for the good of the people a name like that. wow you must be so much smarter than him.
 
Old 11-24-2008, 08:23 PM
 
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Kingtodd -- his run is over. Instead of spending however long it took you to write that negative diatribe, how about thinking about something positive. Whether that be about Bush, about your family, anything!

Seems like a gigantic waste of time to put forward so many negative thoughts.
You call these negative thoughts, I call them high crimes and treason. We should sweep it under the rug and go tip toe thru the tulips. Sure, we'll pretend it did not happen, so that it can happen again. A herd of sheep is what we should emulate. His run is over, but the devesation he caused will be left behind for us to deal with. Nazi war criminals fled to South America where they were found years later and only then there was closure. Maybe it is not important for you to see something, anything resembling justice prevail, but for some of us it is crucial.
 
Old 11-24-2008, 08:24 PM
 
Location: City, State
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I could sit here for a week and show you bush screwups.
Sounds like a great way to spend your time!
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