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I just cannot for the life of me understand anyone, even a severely addicted person, being so selfish and inconsiderate that they believe everyone else should hold their breath or leave if they can't deal with the ambient toxins produced when the addict gets a fix to continue his addiction and keep from hurting.
It's called "maintaining" in the parlance of street drugs, and most addicts I have known will find a place to hide when they fix. Tobacco addicts are the exception, and many times want to become confrontational about beng asked to practice their addiction in private.
No one else got you addicted but yourself, no one else is making you continue to be addicted except yourself, and no one else should be forced to participate in the addiction with you unwillingly.
No one else got you addicted but yourself, no one else is making you continue to be addicted except yourself, and no one else should be forced to participate in the addiction with you unwillingly.
I wonder how many drunk driving accident victims said the same thing about alcoholism?
those same people would aslo have to make sure that no cooking utensil or pan or plate comes into contact with said allergen--or they die. seems a little more risky than getting a wisp of second hand smoke..dont you think?
Not if you are severely allergic and experience a severe reaction as a result of the exposure.
I just cannot for the life of me understand anyone, even a severely addicted person, being so selfish and inconsiderate that they believe everyone else should hold their breath or leave if they can't deal with the ambient toxins produced when the addict gets a fix to continue his addiction and keep from hurting.
How is it any different from the carbon monoxide belching out of your car destroying the ozone? Or selfish alcoholics killing people while drunk driving? Or how about the inconsiderate jerk who bathes in perfume choking everyone around them? There is plenty of blame to go around.
How is it any different from the carbon monoxide belching out of your car destroying the ozone? Or selfish alcoholics killing people while drunk driving? Or how about the inconsiderate jerk who bathes in perfume choking everyone around them? There is plenty of blame to go around.
I wonder how many drunk driving accident victims said the same thing about alcoholism?
I am also a recovering alcoholic closing in on 23 years sobriety who was also cross-addicted (17 years of street drugs).
I was in business just before I checked into detox, and that last year I drove 30,000 miles so drunk that I had to close one eye to get the double vision to go away so I could aim down the line. The last six months I drank I killed a half gallon of Evan Williams 90 proof bourbon every day, and I could not stop. I had to drink to keep the shakes and the DTs away.
When my son was five days old I drank all but 1/2 inch of a half gallon between 4:30 and 10:00 in the morning, and I couldn't quit shaking. I knew that I was either going to get help or die, and I gave up.
I don't blame anyone but myself for anything that happened to me. I never hurt anyone when I drove, and that as well as my continued recovery is by the Grace of God. If I had, I would have expected to be prosecuted. The victims would not have been the ones at fault, nor the alcohol. I was the one out of control, even though as a full-blown addict I could not have quit on my own. The results of my actions were and are my responsibility.
Now, every morning I have a choice: to drink, or not to drink. As long as I choose not to drink, I'm OK. If I were ever to get up and choose to drink, the drink would take away my choice and I would be addicted again and pick up where I left off in 1986. I don't intend to try again. All I had left when I got out of detox were my wife and three children and a house with 20 years left on the mortgage, and I was, am and will die the luckiest and the richest man alive. The next time I might not be so lucky.
Again....I am not talking about the health aspect of the 2, but the legal aspect
What are the legal aspects then because as far as I know the only reason smoking in public places is banned is because it is harmful to other people. Please enlighten us as to what the legal aspect is if not that. You are really reaching here.
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those same people would aslo have to make sure that no cooking utensil or pan or plate comes into contact with said allergen--or they die. seems a little more risky than getting a wisp of second hand smoke..dont you think?
I take it that you are a smoker and are totally oblivious to the pain you cause non-smokers who are allergic to your cigarette smoke (or just plain do not care). I'm done debating with you on this topic.
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