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Old 01-18-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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There was an interesting editorial published in a local newspaper recently which raised an interesting thought or two: the writer compared other wars and lands taken over by the 'opponents' comparing with Russia, Germany, Japan and the like and she noted that when their wars were over, those conquerers did not have to 'give back' those lands they 'won' in a fight...why was Israel being singled out and condemned...interesting.

The comment above about Jews being greedy and arrogant pigs; that is an outrageous statement to make. To continue that kind of attitude and/or belief system clearly does not help unifying this country in any way; how would it be to go back to the stereotypical comments about Italians, Germans, Irish, Poles...each ethnic group has their own traits, qualities and when combined give us a culture and flavorful community...perhaps try something new, think about similiarities rather than differences and then educate yourself about those diferences, the more education about a group, the less bias, racism and prejudice...and we can all live happily together.

For someone who has never been to a Catholic Church mass they might be overwhelmed with the incense, the kneeling, standing, and sitting; years ago, they would have sat in the Church listening to a mass in Latin and not know what was going on; so that difference means, what, condemn the Catholic Church or be comnfortable in the commonality of a house of worship and interested in the difference; to to a Bapist Church and sit and listen to amazing gospel music and joy resounding throughout that Church; and then go to a Quaker meeting and listen to the silence.

My point, all is interesting...by and large, we are more 'alike' than dis-alike, except, sadly, for those who disparage differences, condemn what they don't know, and scapegoat those that frighten them.
Try telling all these to the beseiged population of Gaza
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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Oh my! What a terrible thing to say at a protest!.....I think I may faint!

[ Meanwhile...the right wing nuts on this thread reaction to 300 Palestinian children killed in Gaza over the last few weeks?]


YAWN
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:21 PM
 
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No question about it, these are horrible and tough times; as someone who has always believed in magical thinking and perhaps a realistic Polyanna, I still like to think if we all began to think more with common threads than any other way, perhaps slowly things could change. Some things are so deep rooted, like the old stories of the Hatfields and the McCoys, the reasons or mechanisms that started wars are not even remembered other than to perpetuate them.
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:26 PM
 
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No question about it, these are horrible and tough times; as someone who has always believed in magical thinking and perhaps a realistic Polyanna, I still like to think if we all began to think more with common threads than any other way, perhaps slowly things could change. Some things are so deep rooted, like the old stories of the Hatfields and the McCoys, the reasons or mechanisms that started wars are not even remembered other than to perpetuate them.
You'd get a rifle butt to your head with this kind of talk if you were in the occupied territories
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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You'd get a rifle butt to your head with this kind of talk if you were in the occupied territories
Interesting that we as Americans support the 2nd amendment to keep our government in check, but are a-ok with Israel restricting ordinary Palestineans from possessing firearms to keep their Hamas sponsored government in check.

To Israel apologists who see it as "too chaotic" to allow civilians to own guns, are you going to say the same thing when/if things descend into chaos here?
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:34 PM
 
Location: southern california
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once you understand your enemy it is much easier to take action.
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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You sly dog..trying to equate pro-palestinian or those taking the middle stand with the neo-nazis & skinheads.
Not sly at all, toad.

Just reporting actual links with actual photos of actual skinheads who support Hamas -- and whose sartorial choices one would expect you to emulate...
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:40 PM
 
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Not sly at all, toad.

Just reporting actual links with actual photos of actual skinheads who support Hamas -- and whose sartorial choices one would expect you to emulate...
Ahhh...you are equating me or anyone who supports the Gazans with the skinheads in other words we're like nazis? You are a sly son of a female dog
Hmm...let me see...I can't for the life of me remember when was the last time those skinheads had slaughtered a thousand civilians...
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:45 PM
 
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This is not an isolated incident. Haven't you noticed the violent protests against Jews? Especially in Europe?
There were violent protests against Russian when Russia invaded Georgia. When you're percieved as the big guy picking on a smaller and practically defenseless country, this is only the type of response you should expect.

And regardless of who does what first, you really can't argue that Hamas is only a bee buzzing around a tiger. That doesn't excuse anything, it just means that I doubt it has anything to do with anti-semitism in most cases. Obviously in this one though, it does.
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Ahhh...you are equating me or anyone who supports the Gazans with the skinheads in other words we're like nazis? You are a sly son of a female dog
Hmm...let me see...I can't for the life of me remember when was the last time those skinheads had slaughtered a thousand civilians...
It's good ol' fashion race-baiting!

Al Sharpton, eat your heart out!

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