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I think the stimulus package is doomed to fail regardless. If it is to create 3-4 million jobs, an average of 3 million jobs is slated to be outsourced out of the US anyway.
Do you have the list? Where did you get it? Can you tell us if any of us is on it?
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Originally Posted by jmking
My feeling is this package does not address many issues and is so all over the place and not at all a targeted package.
Wait...it does not address many issues, and yet it is all over the place? Is there a consistency there that I'm somehow missing?
And why was it supposed to be a "targeted package"? To what should it have been targeted? Would it not have made more sense to shoot for a broad-based package to include say, short-term infusions of cash, medium-term job growth, and long-term capital investments? Or is the problem that it isn't sufficiently targeted to the rich and corporations, but instead applies across the income range? How about geographics? Shouldn't both urban and rural be taken into account, shouldn't all regions and even all states be included within the big tent of economic recovery and reinvestment?
Basically, I think you're just trying to think of something bad to say about the package because Democrats did it, and this was the best you could come up with...
Socialism is state ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. The term "creeping socialism" has been around since the 1950's but hasn't been tossed around as much the past few decades, as it was back then.
Kinda unrelated but kind of not ---- I am pretty sure I saw Rush Limbaugh on the road yesterday (i'm not kidding).... fathead man smoking a cigar in a Bentley. He turned onto the road that would take you into the ghetto instead of staying straight on the road that would take him directly onto Palm Beach Island, so at first I thought it wasn't him, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense if he still has that drug problem.
If you listened to what he said He wants everyone to be successful and the..
Country to move foward but hopes Obama's idea's fail.
Im not sure i would call it socialism but having the government take on more..
Control,more debt is never a good thing.
Besides is the government good at anything or solving any problem???NO!
Socialism is state ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. The term "creeping socialism" has been around since the 1950's but hasn't been tossed around as much the past few decades, as it was back then.
Yeah, creeping socialism, soft on communism, tax-and-spend liberal...all just meaningless buzzwords designed to appeal to emotion and enflame passion by those who are/were lacking in actual arguments to put forward instead.
As for socialism, these latter-day sovereign-citizen types appear to have a definition that covers virtually any sort of cooperative effort at all in which any entity or form of government is involved in any way. That's sort of different from any classical definition of the term. Your typical Self-Made Man type will go off a long way before you reach any of that.
Perhaps understandably, a good portion of these lives out in the middle of nowhere. They don't seem to mind that much that they can make phone calls only because others have paid to push land-line service out there for better than a century. They don't seem to mind that they can plug stuff into the wall socket because others have paid to support rural electrification programs. They don't seem to mind that their internet connections work because Al Gore convinced others to pay to build that service out to them. And I haven't seen a lot of threads from them protesting Obama's plan for others to provide them with better broadband access either.
Besides is the government good at anything or solving any problem??? NO!
Do you have flush toilets in your home? Does water come out of the tap when you turn it on? Do your lights (and computers) work just because you flip a switch? Do you have any concern for your trash after the point where you set it out by the curb? Are there any traffic lights in your town? Ever take off in an airplane and then safely land again? What do you usually do if you want to know whether it will be a good day to take the boat out on the lake on Saturday or not?
The government is so good at doing things and solving problems that you don't even notice what's going on. You take it all for granted and never give any of it a second thought. It's all just assumed...until someone starts to talk about the taxes that pay for it all...then, all of a sudden, you want no part of it...
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