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Old 10-07-2009, 08:23 PM
 
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Perhaps nowhere have the cuts been more disruptive than in Arizona, where more than 1,000 frail elderly people are struggling without home-care aides to help with bathing, housekeeping and trips to the doctor. Officials acknowledge that some are apt to become sicker or fall, ending up in nursing homes at a far higher cost.

Arizona has one of the nation’s highest deficits in relation to its budget. As revenues sank late last year, forcing across-the-board cuts this spring, the child protection agency stopped investigating every report of potential abuse or neglect, and sharply reduced counseling of families deemed at risk of violence. Some toddlers with disabilities like autism and Down syndrome are not getting therapies that can bring lifelong benefits. And here, as in other states, the drive to help disabled people live at home has been set back.

Mary Beth Thompson, 57, who lives in an apartment with two small dogs here, is on the growing waiting list for help. Seriously overweight, with chronic pain and weakness on her left side, she has trouble moving about and cannot step into the bathtub without falling, she said, displaying the cast on her broken wrist.


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Old 10-07-2009, 09:56 PM
 
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Perhaps nowhere have the cuts been more disruptive than in Arizona, where more than 1,000 frail elderly people are struggling without home-care aides to help with bathing, housekeeping and trips to the doctor. Officials acknowledge that some are apt to become sicker or fall, ending up in nursing homes at a far higher cost.

Arizona has one of the nation’s highest deficits in relation to its budget. As revenues sank late last year, forcing across-the-board cuts this spring, the child protection agency stopped investigating every report of potential abuse or neglect, and sharply reduced counseling of families deemed at risk of violence. Some toddlers with disabilities like autism and Down syndrome are not getting therapies that can bring lifelong benefits. And here, as in other states, the drive to help disabled people live at home has been set back.

Mary Beth Thompson, 57, who lives in an apartment with two small dogs here, is on the growing waiting list for help. Seriously overweight, with chronic pain and weakness on her left side, she has trouble moving about and cannot step into the bathtub without falling, she said, displaying the cast on her broken wrist.


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So sorry but its Thompson's own fault for getting overweight. Its also the fault of the elderly for getting old and not saving enough money they should have known better, now they can suffer. Geez why can't these people take some responsibility.

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Old 10-07-2009, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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What's your point?
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:00 PM
 
Location: southern california
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yes they are going to expect us to take care of our own kids and elderly. what is wrong with them?
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Depends what you define as vulnerable. Not everyone who is poor is there because of their own doing, but many are there because of their own doing...just wealth alone is not a good definition.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:57 AM
 
Location: California
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It's sad. I see it in my own state and feel for people. I don't know what the solution is however, because there ISN'T a bottomless pit of money to pay for everything that everyone wants or everything we would like to do to help. I don't even know how the government got into the business of "helping" as many people as they do. It would be better if they never did because then some other systems would have evoloved to address the issues and people might not be so dependent on government programs survive. But the government did get into this business and it's going to hurt a lot now that they realize they need to get out of it.
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:28 AM
 
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Cry me a river.
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:26 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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It's sad. I see it in my own state and feel for people. I don't know what the solution is however, because there ISN'T a bottomless pit of money to pay for everything that everyone wants or everything we would like to do to help. I don't even know how the government got into the business of "helping" as many people as they do. It would be better if they never did because then some other systems would have evoloved to address the issues and people might not be so dependent on government programs survive. But the government did get into this business and it's going to hurt a lot now that they realize they need to get out of it.
There were other systems. Like the family and community. Those systems have been utterly destroyed by the collectivists however. When did children start abandoning their elderly parents? Why are there so few community groups to help the poor? Simple really, the Godvernment now has replaced these natural relationships that have existed forever. Why should people care for the poor when the Godvernment is already taking care of it? Why should children take care of their parents when the Godvernment is doing such a bang up job already? Why have any compassion whatsoever for the plights of your fellow man when that is the job of Godvernment? It is only rational that people feel that they have already done their part by paying the draconian taxes imposed upon them by the "benevolent" Godvernment.
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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So sorry but its Thompson's own fault for getting overweight.
You are 110% correct sir.

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Its also the fault of the elderly for getting old and not saving enough money they should have known better, now they can suffer. Geez why can't these people take some responsibility.
I thought we have Medicare now?

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Every conservative I know is a highly charitable person, including myself .
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Maybe a charity can help. We shouldn't let the government help anyone. That's socialism! How dare we help others!!

I mean, she shouldn't have ate all those cheeseburgers and she should have taken better care of herself so someone wouldn't have to take care of her when she gets old.

/idiotic conservative thought
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