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Old 02-27-2009, 06:39 PM
 
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Hi folks, This seemed like a good place to post this. According to the news article below: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/us/27govs.html Idaho is one of the states considering turning down federal funds from the recent stimulus bill that would provide for extended unemployment benefits for those laid off in this hard year. As a friend or colleague of many people in this situation at HP or Micron, I have written to our governor to protest this action and demand that they take the funds and extend people's benefits per the requirements for taking this money. Their argument is that though they would get money from the federal government, the changes might end up costing the state treasury more. I say, if they need to raise more money for the state treasury, they should enact new taxes on the companies and highly paid managers who are making the decisions to cut jobs in Boise and send them overseas, not punish the poor souls who find themselves jobless in this horrible economy after long careers of dedicated service. You can write to our governor at this page: C. L. “Butch” Otter - The State of Idaho - Our Governor Contact Form Please forward this to all your friends and family.
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Old 02-28-2009, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Slightly west of Downtown Boise
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Considering the state's lone Democrat is a cheerleader for opposing the Stimulus Pkg, this good-intentioned idea is a wasted effort...
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:00 PM
 
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If unemployment benefits are extended, employers won't be able to drive down wages as fast. Idaho voters ensure minimum wages.
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Old 03-02-2009, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Long Beach, CA
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How the Valley's vibrant economy disintegrated | Eyepiece | Idaho Statesman (http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/684139.html - broken link)

For the last couple years I've been telling my family that this could happen and it would be the state's fault. Boise kept Idaho moving and Idaho decided to cut off it's limbs.
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Old 03-02-2009, 01:44 AM
 
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When I saw subdivisions of new $400K+ houses in/around Boise, I knew its goose was cooked. It will be boom/bust in Idaho as long as it's a red state, because business rules in those states and business will almost always take a short-term gain at any long-term price. (Just look at almost any bank now, for a glaring example. The CEO is willing to bankrupt the company in the future for a $10 million bonus today.)
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:12 AM
 
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When I saw subdivisions of new $400K+ houses in/around Boise, I knew its goose was cooked. It will be boom/bust in Idaho as long as it's a red state, because business rules in those states and business will almost always take a short-term gain at any long-term price. (Just look at almost any bank now, for a glaring example. The CEO is willing to bankrupt the company in the future for a $10 million bonus today.)

Heiwos, get off of your platform and your constant bashing republican bull crap. When did you last live here? Do you realize there are many people here whom make great wages, can afford more expensive homes?
Not everyone works for Micron. Why do you always see the glass half emtpy?
What is your agenda? What are you trying to prove here????
Do you miss Boise so much that all of the sudden you decided to start posting in Boise threads with a constant downer tone and actually telling people to leave the state???
Are you a happy person? Having depression issues?
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Old 03-02-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Heiwos,

I must admit, I get this same vibe from you. Are you going "keyboard warrior" here or are you normally this sour on everything in life? I can't imagine that would be much fun...
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:53 PM
 
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Just poking my head in the Idaho forum, and came across this.

What strikes me as funny is the last line of your statement, "The CEO is willing to bankrupt the company in the future for a $10 million bonus today."<----Isn't that EXACTLY what this stimulus is doing to future generations of Americans? Sacrificing the future of our children for a fix today, so nobody has to feel uncomfortable?

And by rejecting bailout money, they are not turning their backs on Idaho. They are refusing to turn Idaho into a welfare state. The stimulus is giving the working person $13 per week, and giving the unemployed $25 per week. What does that tell you?
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Old 03-02-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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My point is, the sooner Idahoans quit voting against their own best interests, the better off they will be. I hate to see the children suffer. (People are going to be starving within a few years, and not because of Obama.) As long as we're talking mass lay-offs which are leading to another Great Depression, might as well discuss the root cause and how to fix that.
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Old 03-02-2009, 03:25 PM
 
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What strikes me as funny is the last line of your statement, "The CEO is willing to bankrupt the company in the future for a $10 million bonus today."<----Isn't that EXACTLY what this stimulus is doing to future generations of Americans? Sacrificing the future of our children for a fix today, so nobody has to feel uncomfortable?
No, and no. It's about a last ditch attempt to stave off a depression, which would be 10X worse than injecting some $trillions into the economy now, to fix what Idahoans and other red staters broke.

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And by rejecting bailout money, they are not turning their backs on Idaho. They are refusing to turn Idaho into a welfare state. The stimulus is giving the working person $13 per week, and giving the unemployed $25 per week. What does that tell you?
It tells me that Idaho employers want to drive down wages faster. It's too late to be against welfare. Idahoans have firmly supported $9 trillion in borrowing & wasting since 1980, and have adamantly opposed paying one dime back.

Y'all can pretend that Republicanism has nothing to do with Idaho's fate now, but it'll just make things worse.
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