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Private citizen requests billions of dollars in handouts from the U.S. government, and the U.S. government--representing the U.S. taxpayer--should just bend over? Get real.
No, said government should return the tax revenues to the taxpayer and let them decide where to donate the cash themselves.
And tell me again, what made this the government's problem in the first place?
They the company made it the government's problem when they came to the governments door asking for the money.
It also the governments job to protect the country..
If this country suddenly had another Great Depression.. you'd be on this board complainging about how the Gov't failed to protect this country after the entire failure of the economic system , super high rates of unemployement.. which, BTW, will ultimately affect our military power and thereby our standing in the world.. need I go on.
Boy.. can't win with some people.. damned if you do.. damned if you don't.
And tell me again, what made this the government's problem in the first place?
Hmm..well, history has shown us what can happen when the government minds it's own business. Oh, and have you ever thought about how many people work in the automotive industry?
If government chooses not to abide by the limits imposed on it by the Constitution, then that government has NO limits.
For those of you who believe that "It was best for the country that he step down, so that makes it OK for govt to tell him to leave" is an acceptable excuse, see the first sentence in this post.
Let's see... The Obama admin chose to decide which comapnies could fail and which couldn't, then made it so by doling out a trillion or more US dollars to the lucky ones.
Then they decided to control the salaries of some of the employees. Not many... but how long will that limit be in place?
Now they've decided to take the responsibility of deciding who can work where. Again, they haven't applied it to many... yet.
Remind me again why I should NOT think we are careening headlong into a socialistic form of government?
When you ignore the limits impose on the American government by the Constitution, you wind up with a government that has NO limits. We're not there yet... but the light at the end of the tunnel, is looking more and more like an approaching train. An EXPRESS train.
My point exactly. Only much better articulated by you.
But you're wasting your breath. These folks aren't interested in learning anything. They're possessed. They'll just run back to the right-wing trenches, begin to search madly for the next "AHA!" article, which "proves" Obama is a "fill-in-the-blank" (socialist, communist, pal-of-terrorists, whatever), and trot right back to the forum to start yet another ridiculous thread. Ad nauseum.
Let the company go bankrupt. They'll learn everything they need to know in the process.
Every one that Obama or Oprompter doesn't like will be fired...I guess we even have to watch out what we write or our computers will be taken....
LOL... I'd worry of Obama liked the job that a sitting CEO of a failing company was doing
It's not a matter of not liking a person (as if we are all in grade school)..it's not liking the JOB that that person is doing.. and obviously he's not doing a good job.. hence the firing or stepping down !!
If YOU bought a major stock in the company with your personal billinos.. don't you think that you would be entitled to a majority vote on it's board and how the company is run? I think you would.
Well.. in this case the Gov't is acting as a majority stock owner in the company and rightfully so..
GM could buy us out by paying back the billions it took.. and then not ask us for billions more if they don't like what's happening
But they won't.. because the company would sink.. and you think unemployment is bad now.. wow.. just wait...we'll really be in a tailspin that will be unstopable.
This company should have sunk 30 years ago. Why delay the pain?
Giving money to the same management team that got the company in this situation and then allowing said team to continue running the organization is foolhardy...and not good business.
And a flat violation of the U.S. Constitution.
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If we treat the government like a bank
What you mean "we", Kimosabe?
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do not be surprised if the government makes demands like one.
I am not the least bit surprised. Such demands, are the exact reason the Framers wrote the Constitution to forbid the Fed govt that kind of power. They knew that such demands would come quickly if they let the govt have such power.
And the Obama administration seems to be doing its best to justify the fears of the people who wrote and ratified the Constitution.
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We could avoid the entire Kings and Dictators problem by not asking and not giving bailouts.
Could have avoided. Past tense.
Would you like to speculate on what we should do now, to reinstate that ban on these government actions, and get it obeyed?
It's not a question asked lightly.
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