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Old 06-03-2009, 06:43 AM
 
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Hamas turned Gaza into one big military base. The Palestinian Authority itself said that for years Hamas used "property and homes as military installations from which the group would launch rockets into Israel, dig tunnels and store arms. According to the victims, those who tried to object were shot in the legs by Hamas operatives."

Gaza victims describe human shield use | Middle East | Jerusalem Post
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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But, but, the Israelis made them do it! Hamas only wishes to live in peace and harmony with its neighbors
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:05 PM
 
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I know of few people who believe Hamas wishes to live in peace. Palestinian Christians and Muslim citizens not belonging to Hamas want to.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:28 PM
 
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I know of few people who believe Hamas wishes to live in peace. Palestinian Christians and Muslim citizens not belonging to Hamas want to.
OK, you made a statement as though it's fact. It's really just off the top of your head, isn't it? WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE?

The FACT is that the majority of Palestinians support the TARGETING of unarmed civilians. Unlike you, I do have a source:
FactsOfIsrael.com: Poll: Majority of Palestinians support homicide/suicide bombings and wish for the destruction of the State of Israel

And BTW, the Palestinian population is 98.7% Muslim and the few Christians left are being persecuted in Palestinian-controlled areas. Palestine’s Christians Continue to Suffer Persecution
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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OK, you made a statement as though it's fact. It's really just off the top of your head, isn't it? WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE?

The FACT is that the majority of Palestinians support the TARGETING of unarmed civilians. Unlike you, I do have a source:
FactsOfIsrael.com: Poll: Majority of Palestinians support homicide/suicide bombings and wish for the destruction of the State of Israel

And BTW, the Palestinian population is 98.7% Muslim and the few Christians left are being persecuted in Palestinian-controlled areas. Palestine’s Christians Continue to Suffer Persecution
OK, you've posted an online survey subject to ballot stuffing from a biased source. As church lady would say: How conveeeeenient! As a statistician myself, I only accept polls from sources using legitimate statistical analysis.

The fact that 1.3% of the population is Christian still implies that thousands to tens of thousands of CHRISTIAN Palestinians are being persecuted.

Giving money to Israel unconditionally is a liberal socialist policy. Sorry to tell you that FACT.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:51 PM
 
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OK, you made a statement as though it's fact. It's really just off the top of your head, isn't it? WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE?

The FACT is that the majority of Palestinians support the TARGETING of unarmed civilians. Unlike you, I do have a source:
FactsOfIsrael.com: Poll: Majority of Palestinians support homicide/suicide bombings and wish for the destruction of the State of Israel

And BTW, the Palestinian population is 98.7% Muslim and the few Christians left are being persecuted in Palestinian-controlled areas. Palestine’s Christians Continue to Suffer Persecution
Lamontnow, Doesn't it trouble you that your source originates from Israel???

Find an unbiased source for your assertions.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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OK, you've posted an online survey subject to ballot stuffing from a biased source. As church lady would say: How conveeeeenient! As a statistician myself, I only accept polls from sources using legitimate statistical analysis.
Biased source??? What source are you referring to? You didn't even read enough to know the source of the poll: "the poll was organized by an independent Palestinian group, the Palestinian Jerusalem Media and Communication Center (JMCC). The JMCC has a history of a strong pro-Palestinian bias and there's no reason not to believe their polls in matters related to Palestinian racism and intolerance."

It's a well known PALESTINIAN polling organization! If they're biased then who are they biased towards?? And you're a statistician?
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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Lamontnow, Doesn't it trouble you that your source originates from Israel???

Find an unbiased source for your assertions.
You're just as brilliant as your friend.

Biased source??? What source are you referring to? You didn't even read enough to know the source of the poll: "the poll was organized by an independent Palestinian group, the Palestinian Jerusalem Media and Communication Center (JMCC). The JMCC has a history of a strong pro-Palestinian bias and there's no reason not to believe their polls in matters related to Palestinian racism and intolerance."

It's a well known PALESTINIAN polling organization! If they're biased then who are they biased towards?? And you're a statistician?
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:28 PM
 
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The fact that 1.3% of the population is Christian still implies that thousands to tens of thousands of CHRISTIAN Palestinians are being persecuted.
I agree. And they are being persecuted in Palestinian-controlled areas by whatever gang has authority there - Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the PA.

And, BTW, is the JMCC (Palestinian pollster) an acceptable source to you as a "statistician"? Even though it shows that the Palestinian majority supports murder?
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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I agree. And they are being persecuted in Palestinian-controlled areas by whatever gang has authority there - Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the PA.

And, BTW, is the JMCC (Palestinian pollster) an acceptable source to you as a "statistician"? Even though it shows that the Palestinian majority supports murder?
The fact that it is biased, whether one direction or the other, is enough to dismiss it as a legitimate source. If they don't publish their data gathering algorithm, I'm not interested in seeing the results.
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