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The manufacturing sector does NOT create jobs. Unless they think they can SELL something, they don't PRODUCE it, no matter how much money you hand them. It is DEMAND that creates jobs, and the stimulus bill is designed to support demand. That's because clearer thinking people than you designed it.
How is demand created if people do not have jobs that would increase their wealth and afford them to spend thereby increasing demand?
Interesting how you trust the people "who designed the stimulus". Many of them have zero education in economics.
Counties that supported Obama last year have reaped twice as much money per person from the administration's $787 billion economic stimulus package as those that voted for his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain, a USA TODAY analysis of government disclosure and accounting records shows. That money includes aid to repair military bases, improve public housing and help students pay for college.
Yet this quote is from the same article:
"There's no politics at work when it comes to spending for the recovery," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says.
What an absolute joke this whole stimulus is. It is so obvious that it is just a vote buying scheme!
You're jumping to conclusion way to quick by pointing the finger at Obama, which the article that you cited even says. The following is from your article:
"Jake Wiens, an investigator with the non-profit Project on Government Oversight, says it's too soon to draw meaningful conclusions about whether the type of aid in the stimulus favors Obama's constituents.
But, he says, "it will be important to pay close attention as the data come in to ensure that political favoritism plays no role."
The imbalance didn't start with the stimulus. From 2005 through 2007, the counties that later voted for Obama collected about 50% more government aid than those that supported McCain, according to spending reports from the U.S. Census Bureau. USA TODAY's review did not include Alaska, which does not report its election results by county."
It looks like the reason that more money is going to some areas has to do with something else besides the areas political affiliation because I don't think the Bush Administration would be giving 50% more aid to areas because they are left-leaning. Perhaps the areas that got more money are poorer areas and they are getting more money because they need it more. After all, poor people with good common sense don't vote Republican because the party platform favors the rich at the expense of the poor and middle class.
Counties that supported Obama last year have reaped twice as much money per person from the administration's $787 billion economic stimulus package as those that voted for his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain, a USA TODAY analysis of government disclosure and accounting records shows. That money includes aid to repair military bases, improve public housing and help students pay for college.
Yet this quote is from the same article:
"There's no politics at work when it comes to spending for the recovery," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says.
What an absolute joke this whole stimulus is. It is so obvious that it is just a vote buying scheme!
From your article:
"Much of it has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation.
...
The imbalance is so pronounced — and the aid so far from complete — that it would be almost inconceivable for it to be the result of political tinkering, says Adam Hughes, the director of federal fiscal policy for the non-profit OMB Watch. "Even if they wanted to, I don't think the administration has enough people in place yet to actually do that," he says."
So, basically, the author of this article, like the OP, is trying to make a connection where there is none, and chose to headline his/her article in the most attention-getting way possible without any facts to back it up.
Final grade: F.
How is demand created if people do not have jobs that would increase their wealth and afford them to spend thereby increasing demand?
Can you wrap your brain around the difference between being unemployed and receiving unemployment benefits on the one hand, and being unemployed and not receiving unemployemnt benefits on the other? From which circumstance would you expect to see more demand arising?
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Originally Posted by cleanhouse
Interesting how you trust the people "who designed the stimulus". Many of them have zero education in economics.
You don't know the people who designed the stimulus bill. I work with some of them and am therefore able with great confidence to take sharp issue with your claim. How much education in Economics do you have again?
The reports show the 872 counties that supported Obama received about $69 per person, on average. The 2,234 that supported McCain received about $34 per person...
I can see that some of you're pretty good at connecting the dots with half truths, but not even close when it comes to understanding a situation. But, at least, try not to let your cluelessness shine thru. "Journalism" like this is perfect for y'all. Say something in first paragraph to get some people's thingies twisted in a knot, because once their prejudice is met, and they read what they want to, they're unlikely to wander to the last paragraph:
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The imbalance didn’t start with the stimulus. From 2005 through 2007, the counties that later voted for Obama collected about 50% more government aid than those that supported McCain, according to spending reports from the U.S. Census Bureau. USA TODAY’s review did not include Alaska, which does not report its election results by county.
What a shock. Rich people like to vote Republican because of all the handouts and freebies they get from them. Classic case of pandering and vote-buying, it would seem to me. Meanwhile, the downscale areas that have always gotten more under state aid distribution formulas and therefore also get more of the stimulus funding that's been spent so far tend to vote Democratic. They may not be rich, but they aren't stupid.
interesting logic. when republican are involved, it's characterized as 'handouts,' 'freebies,' 'pandering,' and vote-buying.'
in liberal areas, you refer to 'state aid redistribution formulas,' but curiously, no mention of 'handouts,' 'freebies,' 'pandering,' or vote-buying.'
interesting logic. when republican are involved, it's characterized as 'handouts,' 'freebies,' 'pandering,' and vote-buying.'
in liberal areas, you refer to 'state aid redistribution formulas,' but curiously, no mention of 'handouts,' 'freebies,' 'pandering,' or vote-buying.'
Ahem... per the link in OP, similar distribution happened during republican years. But I can see why, and while I'm trying you'd too, certainly not holding my breath for it.
Big cities (big counties) are more liberal than a remote county built around five churches serving fifty families. The infrastructure and the businesses are where people are, hence the distribution.
If you (and others) continue to disagree, let me ask you... where were you until now? Were you not getting this kind of "journalistic work"?
Can you wrap your brain around the difference between being unemployed and receiving unemployment benefits on the one hand, and being unemployed and not receiving unemployemnt benefits on the other? From which circumstance would you expect to see more demand arising?
You don't know the people who designed the stimulus bill. I work with some of them and am therefore able with great confidence to take sharp issue with your claim. How much education in Economics do you have again?
You do not work with some of them, that is a flat out lie. Besides, the very people who are in charge of trying to "fix" the economy were in charge of the collapse of the economy. You trust them? Good lord you need help.
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