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Old 08-06-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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Right-wing gerrymandering is well and alive, but starting to crumble in the face of more and more awareness from Americans.

Although the swamp is trying their best to save this slime, and may succeed.

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Republican's unconsitutional gerrymandering wall is starting to crumble

Yet, even as the Supreme Court refuses to enforce the Constitution, two of the most gerrymandered states dealt severe blows to partisan election rigging this year, and a third is likely to follow suit this November.
So gerrymandering is not dead, and there is a very real risk that the Supreme Court will invigorate it if Judge Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed to replace Justice Kennedy. For the moment, however, the GOP’s death grip on U.S. House redistricting is starting to crumble.




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Old 08-06-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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Some of them are also freaking out because the gerrymandering results in massive changes if the tide turns too much.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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To be fair, gerrymandering has been a tool on both sides of the aisle for as long as there's been the ability to draw your own districts.


It's time for it to end, but to pretend it's a left/right thing is dishonest. It's an elected/keep your power thing.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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Right-wing gerrymandering is well and alive, but starting to crumble in the face of more and more awareness from Americans.

Although the swamp is trying their best to save this slime, and may succeed.


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North Carolina has 2 court ordered districts that are to be gerrymandered to insure that a Black person wins that seat.

Are you saying we can get rid of that now?






(of course Think Progress ignores this and the Democrat gerrymandering in other states)
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:39 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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To be fair, gerrymandering has been a tool on both sides of the aisle for as long as there's been the ability to draw your own districts.


It's time for it to end, but to pretend it's a left/right thing is dishonest. It's an elected/keep your power thing.
It can't end as long as White voters and Black voters feel they must be represented by someone of their own race/culture.
Each representative in congress represents roughly 700,000 voters. Squared off lines will never be accepted by either party.


This particular thread is just more pouting from The Left. They do that when they lose.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:44 PM
 
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North Carolina has 2 court ordered districts that are to be gerrymandered to insure that a Black person wins that seat.

Are you saying we can get rid of that now?


Democrats would gladly give up that two districts for the countless number of districts and states that the GOP gerrymandered.


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Old 08-06-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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Gerrymandering works well when voting patterns are relatively normal. It can backfire on you when wave elections hit. I hope this happens in November.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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To be fair, gerrymandering has been a tool on both sides of the aisle for as long as there's been the ability to draw your own districts.


It's time for it to end, but to pretend it's a left/right thing is dishonest. It's an elected/keep your power thing.
No. Because your claim is not fair AT ALL. To be fair? Nonsense.
Seat advantages by efficiency for the two parties:
Republican: 25
Democrat: 8


Thats the result of Republicans doing it in a extremely well organized fashion, and Democrats catching on and picking up the same weapon. It IS a right/left thing. The Republicans started this, and took it to extremes. Some states have 3 Republican house members more because of it. The Democrats? 1 is the largest gap.


Trying to claim everyone is equally bad is dishonest. Its demonstrably untrue.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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No. Because your claim is not fair AT ALL. To be fair? Nonsense.
Seat advantages by efficiency for the two parties:
Republican: 25
Democrat: 8


Thats the result of Republicans doing it in a extremely well organized fashion, and Democrats catching on and picking up the same weapon. It IS a right/left thing. The Republicans started this, and took it to extremes. Some states have 3 Republican house members more because of it. The Democrats? 1 is the largest gap.


Trying to claim everyone is equally bad is dishonest. Its demonstrably untrue.
Roll back 30 years and Democrats did the same thing. It's just because Republicans have held more control over individual states that allow constant revisions than Democrats recently. It's just a numbers game at the moment. More R players, more R rule makers.


Seemingly most other nations can have a national body that arbitrarily makes districts that don't look like abstract art, the US should be no different.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Squared off lines will never be accepted by either party.

This is how you know you have the right solution.
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