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Why should they not? Maybe you need a little something to get you in gear
Interesting how people who want all these 'druggies' to shape up and make something of their life now have a problem when they are given an equal opportunity to do so.
Convited drug offenders made a choice to break the law. Let them finance their own education being they had the money to purchase these illegal items or let them go to a bank and take out a personal loan. If they qualify for a personal loan, then I have no problem with them getting that money. I do have a problem with them getting stafford loans and any aid/grants on any level. Did they make a mistake? Yes. You also suffer long term consequences for those mistakes. There are a lot of people getting slighted by aid that do desearve it, has a clean record and does not get it for one reason or another. So don't tell me how a convicted drug addict/user should get the same shot as me and others who decided to listen to our parents and teachers and be upstanding law abiding citizens.
College students convicted of drug possession may soon get access to federal student loans due to a little-noticed provision in the 181-page Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2009.
The provision would reverse a 1998 amendment that made students convicted of drug-possession ineligible to receive federal funding unless they completed a rehabilitation program and passed two unannounced drug tests. Students convicted of dealing drugs would continue to be prohibited from receiving financial aid.
Under Obama more money is wasted....wow, great...if you have a son or daughter who doesn't qualify...maybe get them on drugs and they will qualify... Is this what American wants?
Give me a break. So if somebody makes a mistake they should be forever excluded from furthering their education with student loans?
The new proposal sounds fine to me. Get an education and better yourself and society.
Convited drug offenders made a choice to break the law. Let them finance their own education being they had the money to purchase these illegal items or let them go to a bank and take out a personal loan. If they qualify for a personal loan, then I have no problem with them getting that money. I do have a problem with them getting stafford loans and any aid/grants on any level. Did they make a mistake? Yes. You also suffer long term consequences for those mistakes. There are a lot of people getting slighted by aid that do desearve it, has a clean record and does not get it for one reason or another. So don't tell me how a convicted drug addict/user should get the same shot as me and others who decided to listen to our parents and teachers and be upstanding law abiding citizens.
This guys wasn't answering in response to you, but he may as well have been
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Originally Posted by SLCPUNK
Give me a break. So if somebody makes a mistake they should be forever excluded from furthering their education with student loans?
The new proposal sounds fine to me. Get an education and better yourself and society.
Convited drug offenders made a choice to break the law. Let them finance their own education being they had the money to purchase these illegal items or let them go to a bank and take out a personal loan. If they qualify for a personal loan, then I have no problem with them getting that money. I do have a problem with them getting stafford loans and any aid/grants on any level. Did they make a mistake? Yes. You also suffer long term consequences for those mistakes. There are a lot of people getting slighted by aid that do desearve it, has a clean record and does not get it for one reason or another. So don't tell me how a convicted drug addict/user should get the same shot as me and others who decided to listen to our parents and teachers and be upstanding law abiding citizens.
What's the issue with the getting a Stafford loan (which is not the same as a grant) since it has to be repaid? As far as I know, anybody can get a Stafford loan; if you don't qualify for subsidized due to your parents making too much money then you can qualify for unsubsidized - you just have to pay interest while you're in school. It’s not like they’re taking money away from someone else….can you explain?
Good. Financial aid is there to help people better their lives. If someone has been arrested and charged with drug possession, they could probably use the help.
We don't make society better by imposing lifetime punishments on people for first-time drug charges.
What's the issue with the getting a Stafford loan (which is not the same as a grant) since it has to be repaid? As far as I know, anybody can get a Stafford loan; if you don't qualify for subsidized due to your parents making too much money then you can qualify for unsubsidized - you just have to pay interest while you're in school. It’s not like they’re taking money away from someone else….can you explain?
This is my issue. They are a burden on society. Yes some have paid their dues either by fines, probation or jail. Because of their lack of care for themselves, their families and others around them, getting educated should not be handed to them. The guarenteed student loans should be for people who are law abiding people.
If you are a convicted anything, go to the bank and get a loan. If you do not qualify for a loan, then instead of spending money on the drugs, they could have putten it towards their education. Those are the people who acted stupidly I think is a word that the president has used in the past.
Bottom line, let them go to the Bank and get their Own loan for school.
[quote=SLCPUNK;11927159]Give me a break. So if somebody makes a mistake they should be forever excluded from furthering their education with student loans?quote]
The guarenteed student loans should be for people who are law abiding people.
Sooooo..you want to exclude anyone who has had ever broken the law? Run a red light? Failed to register their car in time? Didn't pay their cable bill?
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Is this what American wants?
