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Old 08-16-2009, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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...and yet the Democrats are completely unwiling to comprimise...or even listen to the citizens they were elected to represent.
Its divided because of people like you, who shriek and scream and act irrationally 24/7 while the adults are working hard to repair the damage from 8 years of Republican rule, 6 of which they were a majority and failed at everything they did.

These same people are now trying to cause the failure of any reform put forth by Congress to score a cheap political victory and have now invested completely in America's defeat, and to carry this out they employ an army of FOX News indoctrinated morons to give their struggle a public face
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:00 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The 60's was and era of rebellion against big government. The soldiers were spit on and the kids stood against their parents. The kids wanted the right to be who they wanted to be. They did not wish to follow the footprints of their parents. As before if Dad was a doctor the son was expected to be a doctor or a brick layer or whatever. The kids wanted the freedom to choose. They were willing to do anything they had to in order to get it.

Mor like kids didn't want to be pawns in the government's pointless war of choice.
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:17 AM
 
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What is your stance on Medicare and Social Security?
You have to pay into both of those for years before you are allowed to use them.. So they are different than UHC...

And I do agree we do need to do something about the high cost of health insurance.
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:36 AM
 
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...and yet the Democrats are completely unwiling to comprimise...or even listen to the citizens they were elected to represent.
History.

Don't leave home without it.

This era has far more comonality with the "Gilded" Age, as Mark Twain used satire to describe it.
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:53 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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History.

Don't leave home without it.

This era has far more comonality with the "Gilded" Age, as Mark Twain used satire to describe it.
No, closer to the 1850's IMHO. Not much holding the country together at this point and it would be very easy for the feds to go too far and set off the dissolution of the union. Politicians never learn from the past. Extremism from politicians always destroys nations.
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:59 AM
 
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No, closer to the 1850's IMHO. Not much holding the country together at this point and it would be very easy for the feds to go too far and set off the dissolution of the union. Politicians never learn from the past. Extremism from politicians always destroys nations.
The fringe you see on tv constitutes about 15% of the population- at most generous.

Secession talk only gets about 30% of even the Republicans in even the wackiest states- Tx, SC, etc.

No, this is just hype blown completely out of proportion by the corporate media (freed from the burden of the truth by Akre v Fox News) because they fear the public oprion will hurt their investments in Big Pharma, etc.

That's all.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:02 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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The fringe you see on tv constitutes about 15% of the population- at most generous.

Secession talk only gets about 30% of even the Republicans in even the wackiest states- Tx, SC, etc.

No, this is just hype blown completely out of proportion by the corporate media (freed from the burden of the truth by Akre v Fox News) because they fear the public oprion will hurt their investments in Big Pharma, etc.

That's all.
LOL The Second Vermont Republic movement here has picked up a fair amount recently. And it's not primarily Republican either...
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:03 AM
 
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LOL The Second Vermont Republic movement here has picked up a fair amount recently. And it's not primarily Republican either...
Right.


Vermont is storing weapons now, I bet.


Sandbagging Montpelier.


I suggest you don't use "Guns and Ammo" as your source for news.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:09 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Right.


Vermont is storing weapons now, I bet.


Sandbagging Montpelier.


I suggest you don't use "Guns and Ammo" as your source for news.
LOL Lots of VT'ers have guns and ammo, even the real liberal ones. But no, the SVR isn't exactly a violent movement...
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:12 AM
 
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LOL Lots of VT'ers have guns and ammo, even the real liberal ones. But no, the SVR isn't exactly a violent movement...


Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An exegesis: VIII: Official Transmitters


"VIII.
Official Transmitters
by David Neiwert


The strange thing about watching Trent Lott's slow-motion toppling late last year was that the whole uproar was about something that was not particularly new or unknown about Lott.
Lott's lack of judgment, like that of many Republicans, is embodied in his dalliances with right-wing extremists, which had been well observed previously. In Lott's case, he had an open alliance with the Southern variant of extremism, embodied in the neo-Confederate movement, a band of Southern revivalists who unabashedly argue for modern-day secession by the former Confederate States: "The central idea that drives our organisation is the redemption of our independence as a nation," says the mission statement for the League of the South."


Hell, thayse gonna git rat on that there SEEcession thang.

Just as soon as Nascar raps up, and Toby Keith releases his new CD.
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