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No, I am not wrong. Incarcerated felons and parolies have no right, under the Constitution, to have a firearm, to privacy, to vote, to travel freely, search and siezure laws do not apply, no warrant need be obtained to toss their place of residence in the case of parolies, obviously those who are currently incarcerated, such as this idiot, have no expectation of Constitutional rights, except , perhaps , to a redress of grievances, and that at the whim of a judge, IF his 'request' makes it out of the prison system. Driving is not a right, and is not a good example. Free speech COULD have been argued in this case, had he not mentioned people by name in the vein of killing them. By doing thus, he turned his 'lyrics' into a death threat made by a convicted felon, under incarceration. Bye Bye. His 'rights' have not been denied him in any way. He had his due process, was convicted by a jury of his peers, and made all his Constitutional rights subject to the whim of the courts. Thats the way it works. Convicted felons are second class, especially when they are incarcerated, and not much better when parolled. Oh, I am not the one who is mistaken here. I am quite on track. In the case of the new charges this idiot has no right to a seperate jury trial either. He is at the whim of a judge, and that only for sentencing. His guilt or innocence has already been determined in this case. Do some reading on the 'rights' of convicted felons, especially those who are inside the prison system. I think you will be quite surprised at what you find.
I agree with some of things you said but I also disagree with alot.
Tell me.....
What rights does a convicted felon ( not on parole) has in the USA ?
and.....
What rights does a convicted felon (On Parole) has in the USA ?
A convicted felon has all the same rights as a normal person minus the right to carry weapons, serve in the army, serve on jury, and vote. I believe those are all the rights and privileges revoked.
The parolee has the same rights minus 4th amendment in which the parole officer can search his home and car without a warrant. He also has to be on extra good behavior so as not to be sent back to serve the remainder of his/her sentence.
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Originally Posted by Genonfire
Tell me.....
What rights does a convicted felon ( not on parole) has in the USA ?
and.....
What rights does a convicted felon (On Parole) has in the USA ?
You have to read the penal code and federal code to determine what equals "death threats" "assault" or "terrorist threat". All the details are there in concise English.
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Originally Posted by Genonfire
I guess anybody can directly threaten somebody with a " sign " and it WON'T be the same as if somebody threaten you "verbally". I think something is very wrong with this picture. "Death to Michelle and her two stupid kids" is direct statement to an individual but I guess the guy did not have to go to jail. Then again, I guess the event was not in Florida.
You have to read the penal code and federal code to determine what equals "death threats" "assault" or "terrorist threat". All the details are there in concise English.
Ok...I understand that
If I had a sign that say's " Death to officer John Allen and his two stupid kids"
at a protest demonstration rally at police head quarters and John Allen is a REAL cop.
He should have plead not guilty and defended himself as his own attorney.
Perhaps, but he was facing 5 years in prison for breaking probation - charges that that were completely unrelated to the rap song issue. This rap thing was something the DA was hanging over his head for additional leverage. In the end, he agreed to plead guilty to a reduced charge of Corruption by Threat Against a Public Servant and a reduced sentence of 2 years for all the legal issues hanging over his head.
I guess anybody can directly threaten somebody with a " sign " and it WON'T be the same as if somebody threaten you "verbally". I think something is very wrong with this picture. "Death to Michelle and her two stupid kids" is direct statement to an individual but I guess the guy did not have to go to jail. Then again, I guess the event was not in Florida.
Dame shame tho
Saying "death to" is far from the same thing as saying you are specifically going to kill someone. Now both are wrong but "death to" is more of a fantasy/wish. Saying you are going to kill someone specifically is a direct threat.
Anyone with the intelligence of an 8 year old should be able to see that.
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Dame shame tho
Sure, the guy's a moron but jail time? Nah, I don't think so.
