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Old 08-23-2009, 03:34 AM
 
Location: New York City
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We're destroying ourselves through monetary policy, not from bickering.

A few European countries are on the same path.
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Old 08-23-2009, 03:37 AM
 
Location: OUTTA SIGHT!
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I just got back from Europe. It is a pity more of us cannot step outside of America for even a short spell and see what we are doing to ourselves.
Do you remember those news reports from Iran of the Demonstrations against the elections, well that is exactly how we are behaving here. The rest of the world are watching America fight each other over health reform yet we sit back while the corporations rape us.
No need for terrorists to try to fight us we are fighting each other every day now.
Watching us from the outside was very revealing and quite a bit embarrassing. Is America now so hate filled that any new idea or change results in venom and lies being spewed from all quarters.
We look pathetic and we are acting like spoilt children, no wonder the rest of the world think we are now incompetent and cannot even reform our second rate health system and have totally lost it.

Um, thanks for the constructive post?
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:52 AM
 
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Um, thanks for the constructive post?
Sorry, i wish it wasn't true, but it is.
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Old 08-23-2009, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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the enemy is not in bagdad.
I agree. The REAL enemy of America is the Republican Party. They are right here. Ben Laden attacked America for a day. The Republicans attack America EVERYDAY!
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Old 08-23-2009, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Correction. The enemy WAS in the White House. Bush is back in Texas now.

But yeah, OP-you are right about this. We do look like idiots. Americans look like arrogant selfish crybabies in the eyes of the world now. I am sure they are all sitting back and laughing thinking "Wow...no problem to spend billions of dollars on Israel or trillions on Iraq but to spend it in the good ol' USA, NO WAY!"

Hahahahah!!!!

i love how you didn't even mention afghanistan. don't forget the war obama is fighting over there. when that kool aid wears off start thinking about criticizing that one as well.
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Old 08-23-2009, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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From a cursory examination of common gripes, it's clear that the #1 source of America's problems is (drum roll) --- the government.

To illustrate:
[] Denouncing corporations (artificial persons) without first taking the government to task for extending "personhood" to corporations under the 14th amendment, is futile.
[] Monetary issues are derived from the usury and the debt-credit money token system, via the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and other unsavory acts.
[] Mounting tax burdens from 'voluntary' national socialism via FICA / Social Security Act of 1935, is entirely our own fault - since there is no law compelling participation.
[] The hidden export tax via the income tax, has destroyed American industries, as well as subsidized imports, which do not have hidden taxes.
[] The socialist tax system penalized producers for the benefit of consumers, and has effectively destroyed manufacturing of basic necessities, and restructured the economy of the USA to a service oriented system.
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Old 08-23-2009, 08:11 AM
 
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More like the super wealthy are consolidating their wealth in this country, and letting the middle class and their future generations dangle in the breeze.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:50 AM
 
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Obama and the Democrat Party are destroying America. America is NOT doing it to itself.
Then who did the damage before Obama and the Democrats took control? Or were you not paying attention?

Your view of other Americans actually does more damage than Obama and the Democrats. But you'll never admit to that.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: OUTTA SIGHT!
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Sorry, i wish it wasn't true, but it is.
It may be true but I wish we could have a conversation on how to stop it instead of just saying, 'woe is us'...

Plus, I don't see this forum as a honest sampling of America.

At all.

And, although I don't read them, I certainly would not think European newspapers have more insight into what we are 'really' like or what our problems 'really' are.




I think the majority of Americans are (still) apolitical.

Which is a curse and a blessing.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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We're destroying ourselves through monetary policy, not from bickering.

A few European countries are on the same path.
We do not have sound monetary policy because of the bickering. I'm convinced if one party proposes good fiscal legislation, the other party instantly becomes the "party of no". We need policy that makes sense. Policies that are pro-business and provide strong social benefits and infrastructure to the taxpayer. Real change! Not some deregulation that turns the economy into the Wild West. And certainly not policy that that is intended to secure votes for one party or the other.
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