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Old 09-27-2009, 09:47 PM
 
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It appears from history this is the case.


Present negotiations still stand open. They can be continued if you will give the word. Should the need for supplementing them become evident, nothing stands in the way of widening their scope into a conference of all the nations directly interested in the present controversy. Such a meeting to be held immediately-in some neutral spot in Europe—would offer the opportunity for this and correlated questions to be solved in a spirit of justice, of fair dealing, and, in all human probability, with greater permanence.

In my considered judgment, and in the light of the experience of this century, continued negotiations remain the only way by which the immediate problem can be disposed of upon any lasting basis.
Should you agree to a solution in this peaceful manner I am convinced that hundreds of millions throughout the world would recognize your action as an outstanding historic service to all humanity.


http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15544
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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It appears from history this is the case.


Present negotiations still stand open. They can be continued if you will give the word. Should the need for supplementing them become evident, nothing stands in the way of widening their scope into a conference of all the nations directly interested in the present controversy. Such a meeting to be held immediately-in some neutral spot in Europe—would offer the opportunity for this and correlated questions to be solved in a spirit of justice, of fair dealing, and, in all human probability, with greater permanence.

In my considered judgment, and in the light of the experience of this century, continued negotiations remain the only way by which the immediate problem can be disposed of upon any lasting basis.
Should you agree to a solution in this peaceful manner I am convinced that hundreds of millions throughout the world would recognize your action as an outstanding historic service to all humanity.


Franklin D. Roosevelt: Letter to Adolf Hitler Seeking Peace.
Perhaps if we got Israel to give up it's nukes and stop threatening?

Have you read Hitlers reply to the letter
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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It appears from history this is the case.


Present negotiations still stand open. They can be continued if you will give the word. Should the need for supplementing them become evident, nothing stands in the way of widening their scope into a conference of all the nations directly interested in the present controversy. Such a meeting to be held immediately-in some neutral spot in Europe—would offer the opportunity for this and correlated questions to be solved in a spirit of justice, of fair dealing, and, in all human probability, with greater permanence.

In my considered judgment, and in the light of the experience of this century, continued negotiations remain the only way by which the immediate problem can be disposed of upon any lasting basis.
Should you agree to a solution in this peaceful manner I am convinced that hundreds of millions throughout the world would recognize your action as an outstanding historic service to all humanity.


Franklin D. Roosevelt: Letter to Adolf Hitler Seeking Peace.
Could be futile, but based upon the actions Obama took with missile defense in Eastern Europe, perhaps something will come of a Russian and US series of actions to end the Iranian nuclear weapon development.

A long shot, but still a possibility.
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:59 PM
 
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This exact topic was discussed a few months ago.
Please search before starting new threads.

Who is the US to choose what weaponry any other country can possess?
We do not rule the world.

I think we ought to stay a home and sit on our hands for a few decades.
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:00 PM
 
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Perhaps if we got Israel to give up it's nukes and stop threatening?

Have you read Hitlers reply to the letter

How would universal disarmament on the part of the Israelis prevent an attack by Iran?

Please explain the "threatening" part.
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:00 PM
 
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It appears from history this is the case.


Present negotiations still stand open. They can be continued if you will give the word. Should the need for supplementing them become evident, nothing stands in the way of widening their scope into a conference of all the nations directly interested in the present controversy. Such a meeting to be held immediately-in some neutral spot in Europe—would offer the opportunity for this and correlated questions to be solved in a spirit of justice, of fair dealing, and, in all human probability, with greater permanence.

In my considered judgment, and in the light of the experience of this century, continued negotiations remain the only way by which the immediate problem can be disposed of upon any lasting basis.
Should you agree to a solution in this peaceful manner I am convinced that hundreds of millions throughout the world would recognize your action as an outstanding historic service to all humanity.


Franklin D. Roosevelt: Letter to Adolf Hitler Seeking Peace.[/url]
I really do not think that you can compare the two. Hitler was insane and yes, Ahmadinejad is a nutjob, but he is just a figurehead. It's the mullahs that are running the show. 60% of Iran's population is under thirty years of age and judging by the last election and the rebellion it caused, it is just mater of time until things change. The young people are very much into western culture and fairly fed up with the way things are within their government. There are sour grapes with Iran and their feelings towards the U.S. and you cannot blame them...

Iran Had a Democracy Before We Took It Away

Iranians do not need or want us to teach them about liberty and representative government. They have long embodied this struggle. It is we who need to be taught. It was Washington that orchestrated the 1953 coup to topple Iran’s democratically elected government, the first in the Middle East, and install the compliant shah in power. It was Washington that forced Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh, a man who cared as much for his country as he did for the rule of law and democracy, to spend the rest of his life under house arrest. We gave to the Iranian people the corrupt regime of the shah and his savage secret police and the primitive clerics that rose out of the swamp of the dictator’s Iran. Iranians know they once had a democracy until we took it away.

Iran Had a Democracy Before We Took It Away | CommonDreams.org
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:03 PM
 
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dialogue is never a waste of time. however.
iran can gain esteem in the arab community and intimidate israel with threats.
very similar to north korea behavior. of course if they use those weapons they become a parking lot and they know it.

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Old 09-27-2009, 10:03 PM
 
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This exact topic was discussed a few months ago.
Please search before starting new threads.

Who is the US to choose what weaponry any other country can possess?
We do not rule the world.

I think we ought to stay a home and sit on our hands for a few decades.

Did you have a link to the other thread?

I'm aware of the search function by the way.


The answer to your central question is we're the US.
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:06 PM
 
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Could be futile, but based upon the actions Obama took with missile defense in Eastern Europe, perhaps something will come of a Russian and US series of actions to end the Iranian nuclear weapon development.

A long shot, but still a possibility.
We need to negotiate to get partners in what will probably be an inevitable military action. Iran might yield if the strike is truly with international support. But if they think the can score points by being the victim. Remember they don't need to win they only need to stop us from winning. Like Hezbollah in Lebanon. They took a beating and kept on ticking and that was a victory. The real fears of a strike are failure and he inevitable economic hit. The newly disclosed site is below ground, hardened and on a Revolutionary Guard military base. Even a regime change in Iran can't get to it without going through the Guard. We have to be careful not to set the bar to high on what constitutes a successful attack. The role of the Persian Empire in modern Iranian psychology can't be ignored. Southern Europe has as much to worry about as Israel.
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/g...e-Map.--lv.htm
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Is Negotiating With Iran A Waste Of Time?

Yes
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